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fluidistic said:
Still slow for me for some pages.

Really? Smooth as silk here...


I can't imagine that even a script kiddy would be so stupid to keep renewing a failed DDOS.

Then again, stupidity is a many splendored thing...
 
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nismaratwork said:
Really? Smooth as silk here...


I can't imagine that even a script kiddy would be so stupid to keep renewing a failed DDOS.

Then again, stupidity is a many splendored thing...

Smooth here too. And I'm using a dorm connection, so smoothness is exceptional.
 
Char. Limit said:
Smooth here too. And I'm using a dorm connection, so smoothness is exceptional.

OK, we've exceeded our limit for "smooth" in two posts. :-p

Still, I remember dorm connections... always clogged when you'd expect them to be.
 
nismaratwork said:
... I remember dorm connections... always clogged when you'd expect them to be.

At least you didn't have to punch cards to get a connection like I had to. :frown:
 
nismaratwork said:
I can't imagine that even a script kiddy would be so stupid to keep renewing a failed DDOS.
I can.


nismaratwork said:
Then again, stupidity is a many splendored thing...
That's a signature. :biggrin:
 
dlgoff said:
At least you didn't have to punch cards to get a connection like I had to. :frown:

Heh, this is true, I had floppy floppy discs, and I remember no HD, but punch-cards are mercifully not in my retinue. My uncle however recounted a time when he dropped a stack... I gather it's not a desireable outcome.

@Fit: Yeah, I guess I can too... *sigh*
 
nismaratwork said:
Heh, this is true, I had floppy floppy discs, and I remember no HD, but punch-cards are mercifully not in my retinue. My uncle however recounted a time when he dropped a stack... I gather it's not a desireable outcome.

Yeah, but it was a better excuse that "my dog ate my homework".

Believe it or not, we used to ship computer programs to customers around the world by courier as packs of punched cards back in the 1970s. It was much more reliable than messing about with 12 inch diameter reels of magnetic tape.
 
nismaratwork said:
Heh, this is true, I had floppy floppy discs, and I remember no HD, but punch-cards are mercifully not in my retinue. My uncle however recounted a time when he dropped a stack... I gather it's not a desireable outcome.

At least if you drop a stack you know you have a problem.

When I was writing a program directly on cards in about 1973 I didn't realize that the IBM card reader had a a clever trick by which it would occasionally switch two cards round in the output stack, so I'd correct some problem elsewhere and gain a new one, and I couldn't at first get anyone to believe me that my deck had come back out of sequence. By staring at it very hard we eventually worked out that if the card happened to be slightly curved backwards, then sometimes one would catch on the edge of a clip on the way out of the punch and bounce back in such a way that the next card would overtake it. (The out of sequence card also had a slightly flattened edge at the level of the clip which confirmed it). Easily fixed by moving the clip once we knew, just in time to prevent a nervous breakdown.

We used the trick of drawing sloping pencil lines on the side of the card deck to make it easy to spot cards out of sequence and even to help put them back in sequence after dropping them.
 
Jonathan Scott said:
At least if you drop a stack you know you have a problem.

When I was writing a program directly on cards in about 1973 I didn't realize that the IBM card reader had a a clever trick by which it would occasionally switch two cards round in the output stack, so I'd correct some problem elsewhere and gain a new one, and I couldn't at first get anyone to believe me that my deck had come back out of sequence. By staring at it very hard we eventually worked out that if the card happened to be slightly curved backwards, then sometimes one would catch on the edge of a clip on the way out of the punch and bounce back in such a way that the next card would overtake it. (The out of sequence card also had a slightly flattened edge at the level of the clip which confirmed it). Easily fixed by moving the clip once we knew, just in time to prevent a nervous breakdown.

We used the trick of drawing sloping pencil lines on the side of the card deck to make it easy to spot cards out of sequence and even to help put them back in sequence after dropping them.

Wow, now THAT is true hacking. What a miserable experience it sounds like, but thanks for helping to get us *waves hands around PF* here.
 
Jonathan Scott said:
We used the trick of drawing sloping pencil lines on the side of the card deck to make it easy to spot cards out of sequence and even to help put them back in sequence after dropping them.

Couldn't you tell me that 30 years ago
 
Jonathan Scott said:
We used the trick of drawing sloping pencil lines on the side of the card deck to make it easy to spot cards out of sequence and even to help put them back in sequence after dropping them.
That's the only reliable way of protecting your hours and hours of coding and punching. It was important to get it right the first time, because the university's computer was VERY busy night and day, and homework assignments did not get priority. Re-do's could be hectic, especially if the instructors put you on short deadlines.
 
Jonathan Scott said:
We used the trick of drawing sloping pencil lines on the side of the card deck to make it easy to spot cards out of sequence and even to help put them back in sequence after dropping them.

Back in those early days, I had an EE course where the instructor passed out of box of IBM punch cards (100s of cards/box) to each student. Each box contained a working program, without deck markings, that had been purposely randomized. The whole class was based on getting them back in order so the program would run without errors. :mad:
 
dlgoff said:
Back in those early days, I had an EE course where the instructor passed out of box of IBM punch cards (100s of cards/box) to each student. Each box contained a working program, without deck markings, that had been purposely randomized. The whole class was based on getting them back in order so the program would run without errors. :mad:

Did you get extra credit for making them into a program that did something more interesting than the instructor's?

We all used the "diagonal lines in felt tip pen" trick, but we also took the boring step of getting the computer to punch a new deck of cards with sequence numbers on them. That took all the fun out of accidentally knocking a tray of 2000 cards off somebody's desk onto the floor.

"Real programmers don't need abstract concepts to get their jobs done: they are perfectly happy with a keypunch, a FORTRAN IV compiler, and a beer."
http://www.ee.ryerson.ca/~elf/hack/realmen.html
 
Jonathan Scott said:
We used the trick of drawing sloping pencil lines on the side of the card deck to make it easy to spot cards out of sequence and even to help put them back in sequence after dropping them.
Ah, that takes me back.

So does slipping a 3 card loop randomly into the class stack:

Code: 
while (true) do
   print "Jim is a dork!"
enddo

Good times. Good times.
 
Jonathan Scott said:
We used the trick of drawing sloping pencil lines on the side of the card deck to make it easy to spot cards out of sequence and even to help put them back in sequence after dropping them.

Didn't anyone put sequence numbers in the last eight columns of the cards? That's why Fortran compilers only used columns 1-72, after all. The computer lab where I learned to program had a card-sorting machine which you could use to re-sort a deck that had gotten out of order, provided of course that the cards had those sequence numbers on them.
 
jtbell said:
Didn't anyone put sequence numbers in the last eight columns of the cards? That's why Fortran compilers only used columns 1-72, after all. The computer lab where I learned to program had a card-sorting machine which you could use to re-sort a deck that had gotten out of order, provided of course that the cards had those sequence numbers on them.

Ooooooh... someone had it good. :wink:
 
jtbell said:
Snoopy calendars and Playboy Playmates in ASCII art on the line printers. Those were the days. :!)

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…………..,-~*`lllllllllllllllllllllllllll¯`*-,
………,-~*llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll*-,
……,-*llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll.\
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…….*-,…….`*-,...`~,..``.,,,-*……….|.,*...,*…|…...\
……….*,………`-,…)-,…………..,-*`...,-*….(`-,…

:wink:

God I miss ASCII art...
 
jtbell said:
Snoopy calendars and Playboy Playmates in ASCII art on the line printers. Those were the days. :!)
The Comp-Sci jerks gave us Engineering types all kinds of crap about how much access we could have to "their" mainframe, but they all seemed to have tons of ASCII "art" and other frivolous stuff in their dorm rooms. When I could buy my own computer (decades later) I jumped at it!
 
nismaratwork said:
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……….*,………`-,…)-,…………..,-*`...,-*….(`-,…

:wink:

God i miss ascii art...

I have a pretty good ASCII Half-Life 2 lambda.

Code: 
[B]                 ?MMMI                  
            MMMMMMMNNNNNNNN             
         OMMMMNNN.  . ONNNNNNN          
        MMMMN.            .DDDD+        
      NMMNN                  DDD8       
     NMNN      DDDDDD         D888      
    MNNN         8888.         ,OOO     
   .NNN           8OOO          OZOO    
   NNNO           OOZZ.          $ZZ    
   NNN           ZZZ$$$          777    
  .NDD          Z$$$7777         :II=   
   DDD         $$77 III?         ,??~   
   DD8        $77I.  ??++        =++    
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Lancelot, that's fantstic!
 
jtbell said:
Snoopy calendars and Playboy Playmates in ASCII art on the line printers. Those were the days. :!)

nismaratwork said:
………………..,-~*’`¯lllllll`*~,
…………..,-~*`lllllllllllllllllllllllllll¯`*-,
………,-~*llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll*-,
……,-*llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll.\
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…….*-,…….`*-,...`~,..``.,,,-*……….|.,*...,*…|…...\
……….*,………`-,…)-,…………..,-*`...,-*….(`-,…

:wink:

God I miss ASCII art...

Uummmm...

In my day, Playboy Playmates were much prettier than that. Much less ... Cthulhu-esque.

Heck, Snoopy was prettier than that...
 
DaveC426913 said:
Uummmm...

In my day, Playboy Playmates were much prettier than that. Much less ... Cthulhu-esque.

Heck, Snoopy was prettier than that...

Hey, you don't have to tell me G-rated twice! :smile:

Still, an ASCII facepalm is generally more useful than low-res breasts.

Snoopy, I just don't have in my collection... good pup though. :wink:
 
jtbell said:
Didn't anyone put sequence numbers in the last eight columns of the cards? That's why Fortran compilers only used columns 1-72, after all.

When you (student) have been up all night punching cards and waiting for your output to debug, those last columns don't seem too important. :redface:
 
nismaratwork said:
... an ASCII facepalm ...

omg, the moment you said that I looked back and now it jumped out at me.

I swear, all I could see in it was a nasty squid-skull thing crawling across the screen on stumpy little tentacles.
 
davec426913 said:
omg, the moment you said that i looked back and now it jumped out at me.

I swear, all i could see in it was a nasty squid-skull thing crawling across the screen on stumpy little tentacles.

Here's Captain Picard:
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Captain Picard seems to be having a skull malfunction...
 
DaveC426913 said:
Captain Picard seems to be having a skull malfunction...

Nobody said ASCII was perfect.
 
Lancelot59 said:
Nobody said ASCII was perfect.

Actually, I'm pretty sure it's a proportional font thing.
I've been trying to take the image, drop it in CODE tags, and remove the dots to see if that fixes it, but no joy yet.
 

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