Small sphere rolling off the top of a large sphere

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The problem involves a small uniform solid sphere rolling off the top of a larger fixed sphere. The inquiry focuses on determining the height at which the small sphere loses contact with the larger sphere after being disturbed.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the application of conservation of energy, considering both translational and rotational kinetic energy. There is an exploration of the relationship between the height of the small sphere and the angle of descent.

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Some participants have offered guidance regarding the inclusion of rotational kinetic energy in the energy conservation equation. Others are attempting to express variables in terms of known quantities and are exploring the relationship between height and angle.

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There are indications of uncertainty regarding the expressions for rotational inertia and angular velocity, as well as how to relate the angle of descent to the height at which the small sphere loses contact.

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[>A heavy sphere of radius r = 1.00 meter is fixed with respect to the ground. A small uniform solid sphere is placed at the top of the larger sphere. After a slight disturbance, the smaller sphere begins to roll downward without slipping. How high h is the small sphere above the ground at the instant it loses contact with the large sphere



My atempt of solution:

I think, that at the moment when it loses contact, speed of the small sphere is higher than the one in $\Sigma F=mg\cos\theta=mv^2/r$. $\theta r$ is an arc traveled on the sphere. Also since it falls without slipping, $v=\omega r$, where $\omega$ is the angular velocity of the small sphere. The speed at a height h can be found from $$mg(2r)=1/2mv^2+mgh.$$

From foce equation I would get $$v=\sqrt{rg\cos\theta}$$
And from energy conservation:
$$h=\frac{4g-v^2}{2g}$$
substituting the expretion for velocity
$$h=\frac{4-r\cos\theta}{2}$$

I am not sure if this is correct or no. And I can't express $\theta$ in some other way. Could anyone help?
 
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Have you forgotten about rotational kinetic energy? The small sphere rotates; this will consume energy. Your conservation of energy equation will be slightly different.
 
$$mg(2r)=1/2mv^2+1/2I\omega^2+mgh$$$$h=\frac{2rg-7/10v^2}{g}$$

also $$h=1+cos\theta$

and now I would substitute v. Is that right?
 
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myko said:
$$mg(2r)=1/2mv^2+1/2I\omega^2+mgh$$


$$h=\frac{2rg-7/10v^2}{g}$$

also $$h=1+cos\theta$

and now?

Let ##m## and ##r## be the mass and radius of the small sphere. You need to express ##I## and ##\omega## in terms of ##m##, ##r## and ##v##.

Also, working with ##h## is more complicated; find ##\theta##, the angle at the center of the large sphere such that the spheres just begin to separate, then convert that to a height.
 
Ok, ty. I got it.
 
Hi
I'm working in the same problem and tnx i got it
 
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