Smart Meters: Low Cell Signal Solutions and RF

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The discussion revolves around the concerns related to smart meters installed in a residential building with poor signal reception, leading to questions about RF radiation levels emitted by these meters and the potential health effects of installing a cell signal booster outside the building. Participants explore the implications of signal strength on RF emissions, the functionality of repeaters, and the health risks associated with RF exposure.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that smart meters may emit higher RF radiation levels due to low signal reception, while others question the validity of this claim and emphasize the need for technical datasheets to clarify RF standards.
  • There is a proposal to install a cell signal booster (repeater) outside the building to improve signal coverage, which some believe could reduce RF emissions from the meters.
  • Concerns are raised about the health effects of both smart meters and the proposed signal booster, with references made to the safety of mobile phones as a comparison.
  • Some participants argue that the RF exposure from smart meters in a low signal environment may not be significantly different from that of personal cell phones, which are considered safe.
  • There is a discussion about the technical aspects of RF transmission, including the concept of "Alternate Path" and how retry mechanisms in communication protocols may affect emission levels.
  • One participant expresses skepticism about the motivations behind anti-smart meter sentiments, suggesting they may be politically driven rather than based on scientific understanding.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether smart meters emit more RF radiation due to low signal conditions. Multiple competing views remain regarding the health implications of RF exposure and the effectiveness of signal boosters.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the need for technical datasheets to verify claims about RF emission levels and standards, indicating that assumptions about the meters' behavior under low signal conditions may not be universally applicable.

  • #31
Averagesupernova said:
Oh I think you be wrong. I cannot build a new house and install any old electrical equipment I want. The law says I have to follow current code. Most states are a code cycle or two behind the most current but not because the authorities are reluctant to change. The workers in the industry need time to learn the latest rather than suddenly one day everything on the job fails the inspection because the new rules came out a day before the permit for the job was pulled.
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Also it is very difficult to build a residence in some places that is NOT served with electricity. Most power companies say tough luck if you don't like their meters. They know it is difficult legally to remain disconnected for long periods of time. Your house will be condemned.
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I do not mean you referring to the smart meter crowd. You seem a bit defensive though, so I wonder. Just pointing out to you the type of person you are up against.
Thanks for your reply, but I am up against no one, and in fact things are a bit different. I did not say the residents oppose the meters. The meters have already been set up, and this is kind of the provider's fault they set up the meters without checking the reception at the basement. Anyway, they can't force their repeater if the tenants don't want it, and they definitely don't mind charging us "by way of estimation" and sending their employees to read the meters once in a while. Anyway, I am not American and we may have different laws.
 
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  • #32
DaveE said:
Honestly, I think you're tilting at windmills here. I doubt the tenants will ever agree, or that many minds will be changed. Surely there are more fun ways to spend your time. Does this really have to be your problem?
May be, but there are some open-minded tenants too, so we are at least trying. Besides, I have natural curiosity, so it has been pretty educational.:smile: Thanks.
 
  • #33
Wagtail said:
Anyway, they can't force their repeater if the tenants don't want it, and they definitely don't mind charging us "by way of estimation" and sending their employees to read the meters once in a while.
It may well be that they are better off estimating and sending the reader now and then. But there is little anyone can do (likely) if the company decides to install a repeater adjacent to the building in question. This would likely solve the signal strength problem. If they are serving one building, they likely have the adjacent one.
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@DaveE is right. Why does this have to be your problem unless it's just something you enjoy? If left alone the problem will be solved and the paranoid tenants won't realize there is a repeater close by.
 
  • #34
Averagesupernova said:
It may well be that they are better off estimating and sending the reader now and then. But there is little anyone can do (likely) if the company decides to install a repeater adjacent to the building in question. This would likely solve the signal strength problem. If they are serving one building, they likely have the adjacent one.
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@DaveE is right. Why does this have to be your problem unless it's just something you enjoy? If left alone the problem will be solved and the paranoid tenants won't realize there is a repeater close by.
Well, this is our problem too cause we'd rather use something more efficient and pay for consumption precisely rather than by way of evaluation which is usually more expensive, aside from enjoying this of course 😃😃 and I can't count on the adjacent buildings, their tenants may be the same as ours, but this is an issue for another forum.
 
  • #35
Wagtail said:
Anyway, they can't force their repeater if the tenants don't want it, and they definitely don't mind charging us "by way of estimation" and sending their employees to read the meters once in a while.
Hopefully the power company charges extra for manual meter readings. That way the residents can have their paranoia satisfied, the electric company makes more money and everybody wins!
 
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