Trying to buy a quality EM meter for low frequency measurements

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the challenges of measuring electromagnetic (EM) fields, particularly in the context of a new power line installation near a participant's home. Participants explore various measuring tools, their calibration, and the implications of EM exposure from different sources, including power lines and household devices.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why experts recommend using a single meter for RF measurements while separating low-frequency magnetic and electric fields.
  • Concerns are raised about the necessity and cost of re-certifying or re-calibrating EM meters to maintain accuracy.
  • There is a discussion about the use of body volt meters compared to mid-tier handheld meters, with inquiries on how to compare their measurements.
  • Participants note that while pricier gauss meters measure magnetic fields in three dimensions, similar options for electric fields seem lacking, prompting questions about the necessity of 3D measurements.
  • One participant seeks clarification on what noise represents on measurement screens, particularly in relation to HF meters that include signal amplifiers.
  • Another participant shares personal experiences with EM exposure from a nearby power line, suggesting that household sources may pose greater risks than distant power lines.
  • Anecdotal evidence is provided regarding a friend's experience with electric shocks from plumbing near a power line, leading to discussions about AC coupling and grounding solutions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of concern regarding EM exposure, with some suggesting household sources are more significant than power lines. There is no consensus on the best measuring tools or methods, and multiple viewpoints on calibration and measurement techniques are presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss the limitations of available measuring tools and the potential need for multiple devices to cover different frequency ranges. The conversation reflects uncertainty regarding the effectiveness and necessity of various measurement approaches.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to individuals concerned about EM field exposure, those seeking to measure EM fields accurately, and anyone interested in the implications of nearby power lines on health and safety.

Miran
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Hi all!

Not sure if this is the right place but I am having really hard time getting these questions answered in other places as well. I became interested in EM topic when power company decided to build a 2x110kV power line near my house. I would like to approach this problem rationally with measuring tools to determine how far the EM field can reach before it becomes indistinguishable form other present radiation. Upon reading more about it I also became more aware of other source, especially HF ones
inside my home and cell towers.

I began to search for a viable measuring tool and quickly realized that I'll need to buy several to cover different frequencies and radiation magnitudes. If I may, I would like to ask everyone here a few questions:

1. Why do experts recommend measuring RF with a single meter while low frequency radiation is measuring magnetic radiation separated from electrical field?

2. Am I required to re-certify or re-calibrate my meters every once in a while to assure that the accuracy is still decent? I am afraid that this might prove to be very costly, especially in my country.

3. Some recommend using body volt meter to measure the electric potential on the body itself? How does it compare with mid tier hand-held meters and how would one compare the measurements from both methods?

4. I noticed that pricier gauss meters measure magnetic field in all 3 axis, 3d basically. But I couldn't find one that does the same with electrical field. Why is it so and do I even need to measure it in 3d? If I measure in 1 axis, do I need to take 3 measurements and combine them?

5. What exactly does noise represents on the measurement screen (I noticed HF meters often include signal amplifier but not LF ones)?

I did email all of these questions to 2 re-sellers and 1 manufacturer and haven't received any replies in days even thou the meters in question were $500-$1000. I hope I can find some answers on this forum:)

Thank you all for your effort and time.
 
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Miran said:
when power company decided to build a 2x110kV power line near my house.

how far is near ?

Miran said:
Upon reading more about it I also became more aware of other source, especially HF ones
inside my home and cell towers.
stuff in your home is going to expose you to much more EM than power lines at a distance or cell towers
eg ... do you use an electric blanket to heat the bed in the winter time ?The 2 links @dlgoff has provided should belay your worries :smile:
 
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We had a thread last year about magnetic field from a three phase transmission line.
I think it might be of help

here it is
Ampere's law to calculate the B field from a balanced three-phase system

I can add an anecdote.
Recall that tap water is pretty conductive.
A good friend bought a band new house immediately adjacent a 230 kv power line. His back fence was right at the utility right of way.
When taking a shower in his upstairs bathroom he noticed a mild electric shock from the water.
He didn't mind the 'tingling' but his wife put her foot down and insisted he fix it.

He did measure a few volts between the shower head and drain ..
We discussed his measurements and decided there was some some sort of AC coupling, probably capacitive, into the water inside his PVC plumbing.
He notified the builder .
The builder had several more houses in progress alongside the same power line so wanted to nip that problem in the bud..
The builder removed the bathroom drywall and wired all the metal wall studs to the Earth ground rod at electric service entrance.
That fixed the "Shocking Shower". But i will never know why.

Point is
you might find an E-field that's feel-able as far out as a hundred feet
and measurable somewhat farther .
Look at that thread i mentioned above
for it shows that
once you're away by a distance of (several X the spacing between the phase wires),
the individual fields from the three phases very nearly cancel one another
so your total field drops to nil.

old jim
 
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jim hardy said:
wired all the metal wall studs to the Earth ground rod at electric service entrance.
That fixed the "Shocking Shower". But i will never know why.
Faraday shield comes to mind.
 
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