So, the infinite series converges for a>2 and diverges for a=2.

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The discussion revolves around the convergence of the infinite series \(\sum_{n=0}^{\infty} (\sqrt{n^a+1}-\sqrt{n^a})\), specifically examining conditions for convergence when \(a > 2\) and divergence at \(a = 2\). Participants are exploring series convergence tests and rationalization techniques.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss various tests for convergence, including the comparison test and limit comparison test. There is an exploration of rationalizing the numerator as a potential approach. Some participants express uncertainty about how to demonstrate divergence for \(a = 2\).

Discussion Status

Some participants have successfully applied rationalization and comparison tests to establish convergence for \(a > 2\). However, there remains a question about how to formally prove divergence at \(a = 2\). Multiple interpretations and approaches are being explored without a clear consensus.

Contextual Notes

There is confusion regarding the notation used, with some participants clarifying that \(x\) should be interpreted as \(a\). The discussion also reflects on the participants' varying levels of familiarity with series and convergence concepts.

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Homework Statement



Show that the infinite series
[itex]\sum_{n=0}^{\infty} (\sqrt{n^a+1}-\sqrt{n^a})[/itex]

Converges for a>2 and diverges for x =2

The Attempt at a Solution

I'm reviewing series, which I studied a certain time ago and picking some questions at random, I can't solve this one.

I tried every test I could think of, they were ALL inconclusive, I believe there's some function I must came up with to use with the comparison test, but I can't figure which one is it.
 
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ShizukaSm said:

Homework Statement



Show that the infinite series
[itex]\sum_{n=0}^{\infty} (\sqrt{n^a+1}-\sqrt{n^a})[/itex]

Converges for a>2 and diverges for x =2


The Attempt at a Solution




I'm reviewing series, which I studied a certain time ago and picking some questions at random, I can't solve this one.

I tried every test I could think of, they were ALL inconclusive, I believe there's some function I must came up with to use with the comparison test, but I can't figure which one is it.

Did you try rationalizing the numerator first?
 
Ohh, no I didn't. I didn't even think about that, but now that you mentioned it, it worked perfectly, I could apply the comparison test in the rationalized numerator and find my answer, beautiful!

Thanks a LOT LCKurtz :D

Ps: I really wish I had more of a "math view" that you guys in this forum frequently have, and identify when I should rationalize, when I should expand fractions, etc.
 
ShizukaSm said:

Homework Statement



Show that the infinite series
[itex]\sum_{n=0}^{\infty} (\sqrt{n^a+1}-\sqrt{n^a})[/itex]

Converges for a>2 and diverges for x =2
Since x isn't present in this problem, I assume you mean a = 2, and possibly a ≤ 2.
ShizukaSm said:

The Attempt at a Solution




I'm reviewing series, which I studied a certain time ago and picking some questions at random, I can't solve this one.

I tried every test I could think of, they were ALL inconclusive, I believe there's some function I must came up with to use with the comparison test, but I can't figure which one is it.
 
Hey mark44!

Yes, I apologize, I actually meant a>2 and not x>2, and yes, it's bigger than. If you do the rationalization it will become clear that you can compare the a=2 (when it becomes divergent) with the harmonic series, and a>2 will have an exponent smaller than one (p-series with p <1, that is, convergent.)
 
ShizukaSm said:
Hey mark44!

Yes, I apologize, I actually meant a>2 and not x>2, and yes, it's bigger than.
You wrote a > 2 for convergence, which was OK. The other part had to do with divergence of the series, and you wrote x = 2. My correction was to change this to a = 2.
ShizukaSm said:
If you do the rationalization it will become clear that you can compare the a=2 (when it becomes divergent) with the harmonic series, and a>2 will have an exponent smaller than one (p-series with p <1, that is, convergent.)
 
Ok so I thought I figured out with the rationalization tip, but I think I only solved half of the problem with it:

[itex]\frac{1}{\sqrt{n^a +1}+\sqrt{n^a}} < \frac{1}{\sqrt{n^a}}[/itex] For all n and a>0

So, applying the comparison test:

[itex]\sum_{n->0}^{\infty}\frac{1}{n^{a/2}}[/itex]

Which converges for p>1, thus, for a>2. Great, I just provided proof that it converges for a>2.

While it's obvious that when a=2 it becomes the harmonic series, I can't use that in the proof, because I'm comparing a smaller series with a bigger one, so I can only proof convergence, how would I go about providing proof of divergence?

Thanks in advance.
 
Try making the denominator a little bigger but still keeping it "like" a harmonic series.
 
Hey LCKurtz!
Thanks again for all your help, I did it, but I did using the limit comparison test this time, with:
[itex]b_n=\frac{1}{n}[/itex]

It worked flawlessly! Out of curiosity, though did you find another solution? I just ask because you mentioned "making it bigger".
 
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ShizukaSm said:
Hey LCKurtz!
Thanks again for all your help, I did it, but I did using the limit comparison test this time, with:
[itex]b_n=\frac{1}{n}[/itex]

It worked flawlessly! Out of curiosity, though did you find another solution? I just ask because you mentioned "making it bigger".

I used the estimate$$
\frac 1 {\sqrt{n^a+1}+\sqrt{n^a}}\ge \frac 1 {\sqrt{n^a+1}+\sqrt{n^a+1}}
=\frac 1 {2\sqrt{n^a+1}}$$and used the limit comparison on that with ##\frac 1 n## for ##a=2##.
 

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