What Is Soak Back Temperature in Engines?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of soak back temperature in engines, particularly focusing on how an object's temperature may peak before beginning to cool down due to the absorption of residual energy. Participants explore this concept in the context of car engines and their cooling systems.

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  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that soak back temperature relates to an object's temperature increasing slightly after cooling mechanisms are turned off, using a car engine as an example.
  • Another participant expresses uncertainty about the initial explanation and asks for further clarification or rewording of the concept.
  • A participant reiterates the initial idea and expands on it, explaining the dynamics between the engine block and coolant, emphasizing the heat transfer process and the eventual equilibrium temperature that depends on various factors.
  • Some participants request additional resources or links to better understand the concept, indicating a desire for more information.
  • One participant mentions conflicting information found online regarding thermal soakback, suggesting a lack of consensus on the definition or understanding of the term.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not appear to reach a consensus on the definition of soak back temperature, with some expressing agreement with the initial explanation while others seek further clarification and additional resources. Conflicting information from external sources also contributes to the uncertainty in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the complexity of the heat transfer process in engines, noting that the final equilibrium temperature is influenced by multiple variables, including the initial temperatures and specific heat capacities of the engine components and coolant.

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Could someone explain what an object's soak back temperature would be? My idea of what it is relates to an object's temperature peaking before cooling down due to the absorption of leftover energy (i.e. a car engine is being cooled by a fan. The fan and engine both shut off, and the engine temperature increases slightly before cooling down). Can anyone explain this in another way, or point me in the right direction if I'm off track?
 
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Thanks for the post! Sorry you aren't generating responses at the moment. Do you have any further information, come to any new conclusions or is it possible to reword the post?
 
stinsonbr said:
Could someone explain what an object's soak back temperature would be? My idea of what it is relates to an object's temperature peaking before cooling down due to the absorption of leftover energy (i.e. a car engine is being cooled by a fan. The fan and engine both shut off, and the engine temperature increases slightly before cooling down). Can anyone explain this in another way, or point me in the right direction if I'm off track?

Can you post some links?
 
stinsonbr said:
Could someone explain what an object's soak back temperature would be? My idea of what it is relates to an object's temperature peaking before cooling down due to the absorption of leftover energy (i.e. a car engine is being cooled by a fan. The fan and engine both shut off, and the engine temperature increases slightly before cooling down). Can anyone explain this in another way, or point me in the right direction if I'm off track?

Your explanation is right, I believe... If one considers, separately, the engine block plus cylinders, etc. and the coolant, what probably happens is that the mean temperature of the block, with the engine running, is always higher than that of the coolant. This temperature is kept stable by the coolant continually absorbing heat from the block, and continually delivering it to the outside air through the radiator. The temperature of the coolant is always lower than that of the block, because of the 'heat cascade'. Both temperatures, that of the block and of the coolant remain stable since the all the rejected heat of the engine is delivered to the coolant, and all that heat is delivered, in turn, to the outside air. All the heat energy rejected by the engine ends up in the surrounding air, while both the engine block and the coolant temperature, although different, remain constant.

But then you switch off the engine, the coolant flow stops, the radiator fan stops, and the coolant does not deliver any more heat to the air. But the engine block is still in contact with the coolant, and as its temperature is higher, it continues delivering heat to it. And that heat is no longer evacuated to the air. Hence, the engine block cools down, and the coolant heats up till an equilibrium is reached. The temperature of final equilibrium will depend, among other things, on the initial temperature of the block and the coolant, on the respective masses, and on the global specific heat of the block and of the coolant. But, for a given time after switching the engine off, the coolant temperature will rise...
 

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