Solar panels vs reflecting surface?

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The discussion centers on the efficiency of black solar panels, which operate at 20% efficiency, compared to white reflective surfaces that could potentially reduce global heating by reflecting solar energy back into space. Participants suggest that while solar panels can decrease CO2 emissions by replacing oil, their heat accumulation on the planet's surface poses a challenge. The idea of using vast areas of white paint in desolate regions is proposed as a method to enhance reflectivity, although maintenance concerns are acknowledged. The conversation also touches on the potential for ocean-based reflective solutions, despite environmental implications.

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Assuming that a black solar panel has an efficiency of 20%. This energy could be used instead of burning oil and decreasing CO2 emission. But the black color also accumulates a significant amount of the solar energy into heat locally on planet surface.

Comparing this with a white panel (non solar) that would reflect back a lot more solar energy into space. In a global perspective, what gives best effect in reducing global heating?/ Thanks
 
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A reflective surface is what you want - but you will need to put white reflectors (or mirrors) over a vast area of land in order to make a substantial hole in the net energy arriving here. I have often thought that loads of whit paint, all over the most desolate areas of desert, could perhaps make a difference to our situation. It would require maintenance, of course! ('Painting the Forth Bridge' pales into insignificance as an on-going project).
Houses should, of course, all have thermal and PV panels on all suitable surfaces. I see the UK's Green Deal has died a death. That could have made a real difference to us, locally if it had continued and been encouraged. Danged politicians again.
 
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PV panels are black or dark blue as far as I know so is it obvious that its better to put up a PV-panel compared to just paint the same surface white?
Yes one would need to brighten up a big area to make any difference :) Perhaps something that floats in the ocean water?
 
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Perhaps something that floats in the ocean water
Problem: within a few months, marine life forms would coat the reflective stuff and it would be 'brown'. A covering with a shiny biocide (antifoul paint) would bring the environmentalists down on you like a ton of bricks. :smile:
 
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