Solar pool heating via a dark screen -- On the surface or submerged?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the effectiveness of using a large sheet of dark screen for solar heat absorption in a pool, specifically debating whether it should float on the surface or be submerged. Participants explore the implications of each approach on heat retention and absorption.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that a floating dark screen could be user-friendly and cost-effective for solar heat absorption, questioning the trade-off between heat gain and artificial shading in the water column.
  • Another participant argues that a porous screen, whether floating or submerged, would not effectively limit heat loss to the air, potentially undermining its effectiveness.
  • A participant acknowledges that while the screen may not prevent heat dissipation, it could still gather more solar heat compared to having no cover at all.
  • One contributor compares the dark screen to painting the pool bottom black, suggesting that traditional covers or non-porous fabrics may be better alternatives.
  • A participant shares their experience with a bubble wrap cover, highlighting its effectiveness in reducing heat loss from evaporation and allowing sunlight to heat the water directly.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of reducing evaporative cooling by floating the cover, reinforcing the effectiveness of such a method.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the effectiveness of a dark screen for solar heating, with some advocating for traditional covers or alternative materials. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the optimal approach for solar heat absorption in pools.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the effectiveness of the proposed solutions may depend on various factors, including the material properties of the cover and the specific conditions of the pool environment.

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Looking for input on either floating or sinking a large sheet of dark screen for solar absorption in a pool
Summary: Looking for input on either floating or sinking a large sheet of dark screen for solar absorption in a pool

Looking for input on either floating or sinking a large sheet of dark screen for solar heat absorption in a pool. My though its that screen would be very user friendly to roll up when using the pool, and also cost effective. My question is if there is a trade off between the gain in solar heat absorption vs. creating artificial shade in the water column if the screen was to be on the surface. Any thoughts are appreciated!
 
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Welcome to the PF. :smile:

Part of effectively heating a pool with solar energy (via pool covers) is to limit the amount of heat given up to the air. Can you see how a porous screen will not do a very good job of that whether floating or submerged?
 
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I understand that the screen will not prevent the natural rise and dissipation of heat to the surface. But won't it still gather more solar heat vs. having nothing at all? Thanks for your help and input!
 
Yeah, it's probably better than nothing. Kind of like having the bottom of the pool painted black, but who wants a pool with a black bottom? o0)

But better still would be to just buy or make traditional covers, I think. Or use a non-porous fabric that sits on or just below the surface.

Have you tried any Google searching on this? I'm not 100% sure what the best solution is...
 
I use a bubble wrap cover. Here's why it works:

Something like 90% of the heat loss in a pool is from evaporation. A floating blanket stops this. Very effective.

The transparent cover let's sunlight right through to heat the pool water directly. (While a black cloth will absorb sunlight, it will only transfer via conduction to the topmost layer.)

It floats.
It's super light.

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DaveC426913 said:
The transparent cover let's sunlight right through to heat the pool water directly.
And since water is transparent almost only in the visible spectrum, the good type of cover will produce a very good greenhouse effect too.
Or, at least something similar 😉
 
DaveC426913 said:
Something like 90% of the heat loss in a pool is from evaporation. A floating blanket stops this. Very effective.
That is correct and very important.
Float the cover so as to reduce evaporative cooling.
 

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