Solid angle or steradian for measuring

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of solid angles or steradians, exploring their applications and advantages over normal angles in various contexts, including physics and geometry. Participants touch on theoretical implications, practical uses, and conceptual clarifications.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
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  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that solid angles are useful for proving the generality of Gauss's law for closed surfaces.
  • Others mention their application in measuring radiant intensity.
  • A participant raises a question about how to apply normal angles to describe a cone emanating from the center of a sphere.
  • Geometric phase problems, such as those involving Foucault's pendulum, sometimes incorporate solid angles.
  • One participant discusses the definition of radians and extends it to higher dimensions, suggesting that solid angles represent a ratio rather than a physical quantity.
  • Another participant states that solid angles are important in experimental particle scattering for calculating solid body angles.
  • A question is posed regarding the lack of solid angles in three-dimensional geometry problems, where normal angles are typically used.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints on the usefulness and application of solid angles, indicating that multiple competing views remain regarding their relevance compared to normal angles. The discussion does not reach a consensus.

Contextual Notes

Some limitations include the dependence on definitions of angles and the unresolved nature of how solid angles fit into traditional three-dimensional geometry.

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where do we use solid angle or steradian for measuring,in what way
is theuseful over normal angle?
 
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They are useful for proving the generality of Gauss's law for closed surfaces.
 


Consider a sphere and a cone emanating from the center, now how do you apply "normal" angles to describe the cone?
 


They are also useful in the measure of radiant intensity.
 


Geometric phase problems sometimes has them, like with Foucalt's pendulum.
 


They are very useful, of course, if you review the definition of Radian, you'll find the it's the angle where the length of the arc is equal to the radius, in different angles, you'll be taking the ratio between the arc and the radius.
In 3D case, you'll find yourself talking about an area and a cone, this cone doesn't necessarily have to be based on a circle, maybe on some elliptical shape, this gives some kind of a generalisation to the definition of an angle in higher dimensions, that it's a ratio, more than being a physical quantity.

If I'm not right, I'd love someone to correct for me :)

Good luck :)
 


Prove that the surface area of a sphere of radius R is 4 pi R2. The 4 pi steradians is the solid angle of the entire surface.
 


monty37 said:
where do we use solid angle or steradian for measuring,in what way
is theuseful over normal angle?

They're also important in experimental particle scattering where one theoretically calculates the solid body angle.
 


why is it that solid angles are not used while dealing with three dimensional geometry,in mathematics,there all the problems involving cones and spheres were done using normal
angles.
 

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