MHB Solids of Rotation bounded by y=bx^(1/2)

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The discussion focuses on calculating the volume of solids of rotation formed by revolving the region bounded by the curve y=b√x and the line x=a around the axis x=a. Two methods were used: the disk method and the cylindrical shell method, with both yielding different results initially due to integration errors. After correcting the setup and applying the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus, the correct volume was found to be V=(8/15)πa^(5/2)b. Additionally, the rate of increase of volume with respect to time was derived, leading to the expression dV/dt=(4/3)(ab^2(a-b^2))/τ. The discussion emphasizes the importance of using multiple methods for verification and practice in calculus.
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For $a>0$, let $V$ be the volume created by revolving the region bounded by $y=b\sqrt{x}$ and $x=a$ around the axis $x=a$. The units of $x$, $y$, and $a$ are $[m]$. The units of $b$ are $[m^{1/2}]$. The value of $b$ remains fixed.

For fun and practice, I did this question both with cylindrical and disk method. Also, I'm going to ignore the units for now.

Disk method:


$$dV=\pi \left((a-\left(\frac{y}{b}\right)^2\right)^2dy$$$$V=\pi \int_{0}^{b\sqrt{a}} \left((a-\left(\frac{y}{b}\right)^2\right)^2\,dy$$$$V=\pi a^{5/2}b\left(1-\frac{2b}{3}+\frac{b^3}{5}\right)$$

Cylindrical Shell method:


$$dV=2\pi (a-x)(b\sqrt{x})dx$$
$$V=2\pi \int_{0}^{a} (a-x)(b\sqrt{x})\,dx$$
$$V=\frac{6}{5}\pi a^{5/2}b$$

Anyone find my mistake?
 
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Your integrals are correctly set up in both cases. When I evaluate them, I get the same result, which is different from both results you obtained.
 
Disk method:

I am treating $a$ and $b$ as constants.

$$V=\pi \int_{0}^{b\sqrt{a}} a^2y-\frac{2a}{3b}y^3+\frac{y^5}{5b}\,dy$$
$$V=\pi \left(a^2\sqrt{a}b-\frac{2}{3}a\frac{b^3a\sqrt{a}}{b}+\frac{b^5a^2\sqrt{a}}{5b}\right)\,$$
$$V=\pi \left(a^{5/2}b-\frac{2}{3}a^{5/2}b^2+\frac{b^4}{5}a^{5/2}\right)$$

Please correct me :D
 
Check your expansion of:

$$\left(a-\frac{y^2}{b^2}\right)^2$$

You have made some errors which prevent a nice compact end result. :D
 
Oopps, I mistyped a line. Should have doubled checked, but still something wrong.

$$V=\pi \int_{0}^{b\sqrt{a}} a^2y-\frac{2a}{3b}y^3+\frac{y^5}{5b}\,dy$$

should be:

$$V=\pi (a^2y-\frac{2a}{3b}y^3+\frac{y^5}{5b})\,|_{0}^{b\sqrt{a}}$$

which I got from integrating this:

$$V=\pi \int_{0}^{b\sqrt{a}} a^2-2a\frac{y^2}{b^2}+\frac{y^4}{b^4}\,dy$$
 
Okay, this is correct:

$$V=\pi\int_0^{b\sqrt{a}} a^2-\frac{2a}{b^2}y^2+\frac{1}{b^4}y^4\,dy$$

Now, try applying the FTOC...what is the anti-derivative?
 
MarkFL said:
Okay, this is correct:

$$V=\pi\int_0^{b\sqrt{a}} a^2-\frac{2a}{b^2}y^2+\frac{1}{b^4}y^4\,dy$$

Now, try applying the FTOC...what is the anti-derivative?

I think I'm getting these wrong because I was in a rush. For the other method, my $x$ transformed into an $a$ halfway through the problem so I ended up integrating the wrong variable. I checked this like 5 times, so it escaped me 5 times...(Tmi)

$$V=\pi (a^2y-\frac{2a}{b^2}\frac{y^3}{3}+\frac{1}{b^4}\frac{y^5}{5})|_0^{b\sqrt{a}}$$

If this is wrong, I will immediately enroll myself back in an algebra 1 class...(Speechless)
 
You will not have to enroll in an algebra class, that is correct...now finish out the FTOC...what do you get?
 
Went back and fixed my cylindrical method too, and voila! I got for both:

$$V=\frac{8}{15}\pi a^{5/2}b$$

Thanks Mark, as always! (Cool)
 
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Yes, good work! (Yes)
 
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By the way, you are doing yourself good by trying to use two methods on solids of revolution...not only is it a way to check your work, but it is good practice as well. :D

Sometimes it is impractical to use two methods, but when you can, I highly recommend it to all students.
 
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Now for part two of the problem: (Nod)

Part II:
Suppose that $a$ changes with time and the axis moves horizontally at a rate of $\left(b\sqrt{a}-\frac{b^3}{\sqrt{a}}\right)/\tau$ m/s, where $\tau$ has units $$ and is a constant. Find the rate of increase of $V$ with time.

In part a), we determined that $V=\frac{8}{15}\pi a^{5/2}b$. Since $a$ will be moving horizontally with time, $b$ is still constant. Differentiating both sides w.r.t time, $t$:

$$\d{V}{t}=\frac{8}{15}\pi \frac{5}{2}a^{3/2}\d{a}{t}b$$

We know that $\d{a}{t}=\left(b\sqrt{a}-\frac{b^3}{\sqrt{a}}\right)/\tau$:$$\d{V}{t}=\frac{8}{15}\pi \frac{5}{2}a^{3/2}b\left(b\sqrt{a}-\frac{b^3}{\sqrt{a}}\right)/\tau $$
$$=\frac{4}{3}\frac{ab^2\left(a-b^2\right)}{\tau}$$

Is that correct?

There will be a Part III (Headbang)
 
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Yep, looks good to me. (Yes)
 
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Part III is just optimizing the volume, actually. I'm sure I can figure that out. Thanks Mark! :D
 

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