Solution of "polynomial" with integer and fractional powers

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The discussion focuses on solving polynomial equations that include both integer and fractional powers, specifically the equation $$ x + a(x^2 - b)^{1/2} + c = 0$$. The proposed method involves substituting a new variable, transforming the equation into a standard polynomial form. The user successfully applies this technique to simpler cases but struggles with more complex equations that introduce fractional powers. The goal is to eliminate radicals to simplify the equation further, ultimately leading to a solvable polynomial.

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Hello, I have a question regarding "polynomials" that have terms with interger and fractional powers.

Homework Statement


I want to solve:
$$ x+a(x^2-b)^{1/2}+c=0$$

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The Attempt at a Solution


My approach is to make a change of variable x=f(y) to get a true polynomial (integer powers) that I know how to solve, e.g.:
$$y^2+a y +b =0 $$
Then I can switch back from y to x and use each of the solutions in y to get solutions in x. I find that works ok when the power of x inside the root is lower or equal than the power of x outside the root, for example, for the following equations:
$$ x+a(x-b)^{1/2}+c=0 $$
$$ x^2+a(x-b)^{1/2}+c=0 $$
$$ x^2+a(x^2-b)^{1/2}+c=0 $$
the solution is given by making the replacement: ##y=(x^n-b)^{1/2}##, then you have a polynomial in y, e.g.: ##y^2+ay+(b+c)=0## which is straightforward.

If I try the same on this one I get a fractional power of y in the new polynomial, which puts me back in square 1. So far I have not been able to find the right change of variable for this problem.

I am trying to work my way up to:
$$ a x + b x^2 + c x^3 + d (e+fx+(g+hx+jx^2)^{1/2})^2 =0$$
which is the actual equation I need to solve in the problem I am working on.

Any hints?
Thank you!
 
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The way that I would do it is to try to get rid of the radical. For the simple example:

x + a\sqrt{x^2 - b} + c = 0 \Rightarrow x+c = - a \sqrt{x^2 - b} \Rightarrow x^2 + 2cx + c^2 = ax^2 - ab
 
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stevendaryl said:
The way that I would do it is to try to get rid of the radical. For the simple example:

x + a\sqrt{x^2 - b} + c = 0 \Rightarrow x+c = - a \sqrt{x^2 - b} \Rightarrow x^2 + 2cx + c^2 = ax^2 - ab
Of course, it's evident!

Thank you for your prompt answer.
 

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