Solution of x^2y''+xy'-y=0 and Regular Point of (1-x^2)y''-2xy'+2y=0

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The discussion revolves around finding the general solution of the differential equation x^2y'' + xy' - y = 0 and determining whether x = 0 is a regular point of the equation (1 - x^2)y'' - 2xy' + 2y = 0. The original poster attempts a series solution and explores the implications of regular points in the context of power series.

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  • Participants discuss the use of series solutions and question the implications of coefficients being zero. There is also consideration of alternative methods, such as using a substitution y = xm. Some participants raise questions about the convergence of power series and the nature of the coefficients in the context of regular points.

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Participants are actively exploring different approaches to the problems, with some suggesting alternative methods to series solutions. There is an ongoing examination of the implications of the series solution and the nature of the coefficients related to regular points. No explicit consensus has been reached, but various lines of reasoning are being considered.

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Participants note that the original poster is not required to use series solutions, which adds a layer of complexity to their approach. There is also a mention of the geometric series and its relevance to the discussion, indicating that some assumptions about convergence and singularities are being questioned.

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What is the general solution of

x^2y''+xy'-y=0
i tried a series solution y=\sum_{n=0}^{\infty} a_n x^n
and whitteld it down to

\sum_{n=0}^{\infty} (n^2-1) a_n x^n=0 but this isn't getting me anywhere






secondly how do i show that x=0 is a regular point of
(1-x^2)y''-2xy'+2y=0

the definition of a regular point is that :
x0 is a regular point of y''+a1(x)y'+a0(x)y=0 if the coefficients a1 and a0 can be expressed as convergent power series in (x-x0) for this value of x0.

so if i rearrange our equation into the desired form i get that

a_1(x)=\frac{-2x}{1-x^2},a_2(x)=\frac{2}{1-x^2}
for x0=0, a1=0 and a2=2.

what do i say to round of my argument. something like:

"clearly 0 and 2 can be expressed as a convergent power series in x" or
"clearly a1 and a0 arent singular for this value of x0"
how do i round this off?
 
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hi latentcorpse - does you series solution imply all a_n are zero except for a certain n?
 
A series solution is not the best way to do this. Are you required to use series?

If so, look closely at lanedance's suggestion. If not, try y= xm for some number m.

For your second question, remember that a geometric series, \sum r^n has sum 1/(1- r).
 
ok if i was just using series solution, i see now that a_1 will be non zero - is there any way of finding its value or is the solution just going to be y=a_1x?

i amen't required to use series solutions but it was a past paper exam question and i couldn't think of any other way to do it - why did you decide to use that substitution?



i don't see how the geometric sum fits into this last bit either.
 
You said you had \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} (n^2-1) a_n x^n=0.

For Every n, either a_n= 0 or n^2- 1= 0.

The reason I suggested xm is that (xm)'= mxm-1 and (xm)"= m(m-1)xm-1. so that x(xm)'= mxm and x2(xm)"= m(m-1)xm so every term has the same power of x.

Finally, since the sum of the geometric series \sum ar^n is a/(1- r), 2/(1-x^2) can be written as \sum 2(x^2)^n= \sum 2x^{2n}. 2x/(1- x^2) is just that multiplied by x: \sum 2x^{2n+1}.
 

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