Solve 1D Harmonic Oscillator: Expectation Value of X is Zero

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The expectation value of position X for an eigenstate of the 1D harmonic oscillator is definitively zero. This conclusion is derived using the ladder operators \(a^+\) and \(a^-\), defined as \(a^+=\frac{1}{\sqrt{2m\hbar\omega}}(\hat{P}_x+i m \hat{x})\) and \(a^-=\frac{1}{\sqrt{2m\hbar\omega}}(\hat{P}_x-i m \hat{x})\). The calculation shows that \(\langle n|x|n\rangle=\sqrt{\frac{\hbar}{2m\omega}}\langle n|(a^-+a^+)|n\rangle\) results in zero due to the orthogonality of the eigenstates. This is confirmed by referencing "Fundamentals of Quantum Mechanics for Solid State Electronics Optics" by C. Tang.

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Homework Statement



I need to show that for an eigen state of 1D harmonic oscillator the expectation values of the position X is Zero.

Homework Equations



Using

a+=\frac{1}{\sqrt{2mhw}}(\hat{Px}+iwm\hat{x})
a-=\frac{1}{\sqrt{2mhw}}(\hat{Px}-iwm\hat{x})

The Attempt at a Solution



<x>=<n|x|n>=\sqrt{\frac{h}{2mw}}<n|(a-+a+)|n=??
 
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White_M said:
Using

a+=\frac{1}{\sqrt{2mhw}}(\hat{Px}+iwm\hat{x})
a-=\frac{1}{\sqrt{2mhw}}(\hat{Px}-iwm\hat{x})
That doens't look like the standard form, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_harmonic_oscillator#Ladder_operator_method

You won't get ##\hat{x}## from ##a^+ + a^-## with those.

White_M said:
<x>=<n|x|n>=\sqrt{\frac{h}{2mw}}<n|(a-+a+)|n=??
What is your question exactly? Can you figure out what
$$
\left( a^- + a^+ \right) \left|n\right\rangle
$$
results in?
 
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That doens't look like the standard form.

I used the book "Fundamentals of Quantum Mechanics for Solid State Electronics Optics" - C.Tang
Here is the link to the book :http://en.bookfi.org/book/1308543 (page 79 (pdf)).


What is your question exactly? Can you figure out what
$$
\left( a^- + a^+ \right) \left|n\right\rangle
$$
results in?

Using the a+ and a- in the link you gave I get:
<n|x|n>=\sqrt{\frac{h}{2mw}}<n|a-+a+|n>

Now using:
a+|n>=\sqrt{n+1}|n+1>
<n|a-=a+|n>=\sqrt{n+1}|n+1>

I get:
<n|x|n>=2*\sqrt{\frac{h}{2mw}}{<n|\sqrt{n+1}|n+1>}

Now can I say that since all {n} vectors are orthogonal the expression<n|\sqrt{n+1}|n+1>=\sqrt{n+1}<n|n+1>=0?

Thanks
 
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Yes, you can.
 
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