Solve 1D Kinematics Homework: Collision of 2 Rubber Balls

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The problem involves the collision of two rubber balls in a one-dimensional kinematics scenario. One ball is shot upwards from the ground with an initial speed, while the other is dropped from a height above the first ball. The goal is to determine the height at which the two balls collide, expressed symbolically in terms of the initial speed and gravitational acceleration.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the time-dependence of height for both balls and consider setting their height equations equal to find the collision point. There are questions about the correctness of the equations used and the sign of gravitational acceleration.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants exploring different approaches to set up the equations for height. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to equate the heights of the two balls, and there is an ongoing examination of the assumptions related to gravitational acceleration.

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Participants express uncertainty about the correct application of kinematic equations and the implications of the sign of gravitational acceleration on the motion of the balls.

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Homework Statement


A rubber ball is shot straight up from the ground with speed vo. Simultaneously, a second rubber ball at height h directly above the first ball is dropped from rest.

At what height above the ground do the balls collide? Your answer will be a symbolic expressions in terms of vo and g.


Homework Equations


v=v0+at
x=x0+v0t+(1/2)at2
v2=v20+2aΔx


The Attempt at a Solution


For the first ball, I have v_f = \sqrt{v^2_o+2g}
For the second ball (which I think I have wrong), I have v_f = \sqrt{2(g)(-h)}

Unfortunately I'm not really sure where to go from here, or if I'm even headed in the right direction in the first place. Can someone please help?


Thanks.
 
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For both balls, write up the time-dependence of height in terms of the initial position and velocity (your second equation) . When they meet, their heights are equal: that means an equation for the time. Solve, and determine the height with the result.

ehild
 
First ball y=volt + .5(g)(t^2) second ball y=h+.5(g)(t^2). Am I solving for the wrong variable (you mentioned time)? Also does the derivative come into play? Sorry for all the questions, I've been up for a long time O_o.EDIT: Do you set them equal to each other?
h+.5gt^2 = volt + .5gt^2
h = volt
t = h/vo

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Are you sure that the sign of g is correct? If it is taken positive, will the balls fall to the ground at all?

ehild
 

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