Solve Diophantine Eq.: 14 Bananas & Pears, £1.52

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The problem involves determining the quantities of bananas and pears purchased by John, given that he bought a total of 14 fruits for £1.52, with the cost of bananas being 5p more than that of pears. The context is set within a Diophantine equation framework.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss defining variables for the number and cost of bananas and pears, and attempt to formulate an equation based on these definitions.
  • Some participants express uncertainty about the next steps in the problem-solving process and question the correctness of the cost representation.
  • There is a discussion about the appropriate monetary units to use, with some suggesting that using pence might simplify the calculations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the monetary values and the equations derived from the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of consistent units, but no consensus has been reached on the correct formulation of the equations.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating potential confusion regarding the conversion between pounds and pence, and there is an acknowledgment that the original equation may not be correctly set up. There are also mentions of the need for integer solutions in the context of currency.

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Homework Statement


14 bananas and pears were bought in total by John from the supermarket.
The total cost was £1.52
if Banannas that John purchased cost 5p more than pears, how much did John buy from each fruit?

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


number of bananas bought = m
cost of bananas bought = n
number of pears bought = 14-m
cost of pears bought = n -5

I am unsure as to what follows
 
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Mathematicsresear said:
I am unsure as to what follows
Time to write the equation with those variables you've defined and relate that to the total cost...
 
berkeman said:
Time to write the equation with those variables you've defined and relate that to the total cost...
mn+(14-m)(n-5)=14n+5m = 1.52, so does that mean there are no solutions? This does not make sense.
 
Mathematicsresear said:

Homework Statement


14 bananas and pears were bought in total by John from the supermarket.
The total cost was £1.52
if Banannas that John purchased cost 5p more than pears, how much did John buy from each fruit?

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


number of bananas bought = m
cost of bananas bought = n
number of pears bought = 14-m
cost of pears bought = n -5

I am unsure as to what follows

Please clarify for those of us who are not very familiar with English money: is there nowadays 100 p per pound?
 
Ray Vickson said:
Please clarify for those of us who are not very familiar with English money: is there nowadays 100 p per pound?
Yes
 
Ray Vickson said:
100 p per pound
Mathematicsresear said:
mn+(14-m)(n-5)=14n+5m = 1.52
Then 1.52 is not quite correct, right? :smile:
 
Mathematicsresear said:
mn+(14-m)(n-5)=14n+5m
And I'm not understanding this step...
 
berkeman said:
Then 1.52 is not quite correct, right? :smile:
So, should 1.52 be 152? If so, does that mean I need to multiply all sides by 100?
 
Mathematicsresear said:
So, should 1.52 be 152? If so, does that mean I need to multiply all sides by 100?
Just use consistent units on both sides of all equations. Either use pounds or pence on both sides.
 
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berkeman said:
Then 1.52 is not quite correct, right? :smile:

(1) ##m n + (14-m) (n-5) \neq 14 n + 5 m.##
(2) Since you want prices to be in integer numbers of pence, it is convenient to use pence as the monetary unit throughout; otherwise (with the pound as the monetary unit) you would need to find prices that are precise to exactly two decimal places.
(3) When I do it I get three possible solutions to the resulting equation, but two of those are not valid solutions to the original problem
 
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