Solve Electric Power Question: Calculate Voltage at Lamp 3 - Correct Answer 9.4V

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The discussion revolves around calculating the voltage at lamp 3 in a complex circuit involving parallel and series components. Participants are examining the relationships between voltage, current, and resistance in the context of electric power, specifically within a circuit with multiple branches and resistive elements.

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  • Participants explore the configuration of the circuit, questioning the arrangement of lamps and resistive leads. There are attempts to calculate total resistance and current, with some participants expressing uncertainty about their calculations and the implications for voltage across lamp 3.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the circuit's behavior, with various interpretations of resistance values and voltage drops being discussed. Some participants have provided calculations and drawn circuit diagrams to clarify their reasoning, while others are questioning the assumptions made in these calculations.

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Participants note discrepancies between their calculations and the expected answer of 9.4 volts, leading to discussions about the accuracy of resistance values and the impact of wiring on voltage measurements.

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Q) Calculate the voltage at lamp 3.

i've apparently oversimplified the question with my answer of 10v.

the real answer is 9.4v.

if anyone could that could help, that'd be great.
 
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OK

What you have is a parallel circuit with three branches.
Each branch has resistance (in series) from the lamp and the wires.
The resistance of the lamp is found by examining the power equation (at 12 volts, the lamps produce 12 watts, so what must be their resistance?).
Each branch gets the full 12 volts, but the wires in the lower branch have dropped the voltage by exactly one; what's the total resistance of those two wires there.

OK so far?

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OOPS, check that!

There are three branches, but, it's a series in parallel in series in parallel:

lamp 3 is in series with two wires
this series is parallel with lamp 2.

This parallel is in series with two more wires

this series is parallel with lamp 1 and two wires.
 
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Hi
The preceding question asks to find the total resistance of the connecting lead between lamp 2 and the battery.

This is easily done by modelling the resistive lead as a resistor and drawing the appropriate circuit diagram.

This gives:

R/(R+12) = 1/12, hence R = 1.1ohm

So the resistance of the leads connecting lamp 2 is 1.1ohms.

Then we're asked to find the voltage at lamp 3.

If we, again, draw the circuit diagram, and model the resistive leads as resistors, we gets this circuit, where the resistance of the resistors is 1.1ohm, and 12ohm for the lamps (right = lamp 3; left = lamp1)

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In order to find the voltage across lamp3, we must know the current.

So first we'll find the total resistance (this is where my answers start to deviate from the book's):

R(T) = [ 2(1.1+12)^-1 ] ^-1 = 6.55ohm

Which gives a total current of 1.83A.

What have i done wrong? And, assuming that I'm right, how would i find how the current is split? - It's not split equally, as i would have thought.


Thanks a lot.
 
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I agree with you so far. With this current through the top-left resistor (according to your drawing), the voltage drops 2.02 volts. This leaves 9.98 volts across lamp 2 and also 9.98 volts across the lamp 3/resistor parallel.

The current though lamp 3 should be .76 amps, and the voltage should drop across the last resitor by .83 volts leaving 9.14 volts across lamp 3.

This is off from the given answer, I think, because the restance of the wires should be 1.09 ohms instead of 1.1 ohms during calculations.
 

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