Solve Electricity & SHM Homework: Equilibrium Position of Combined Mass

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The problem involves analyzing the equilibrium position of two masses, A and B, in a system influenced by electrostatic forces and spring mechanics. The context includes a perfectly inelastic collision and the interaction of forces at a distance of 1.8m.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mixed

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of energy conservation and force balance in determining the equilibrium position. There are questions regarding the dimensional correctness of the equations used and the interpretation of terms like qEx.

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Some participants have provided feedback on the original poster's approach, indicating that while the method may have merit, there are concerns about the correctness of the equations used. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, particularly regarding the forces at play.

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There is a note about the collision being perfectly inelastic, which may influence the dynamics of the system. Participants are also questioning the assumptions made in the equations presented.

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Homework Statement


In the figure mA = mB = 1kg . Block A is neutral while qB = -1C, sizes of A and B are negligible. B is released from rest at a distance 1.8m from A . Initially springs is neither compressed nor elongated.
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View the figure above.
Equilibrium position of the combined mass is at x = ... m

Note: Collision between A and B is perfectly inelastic.

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


a= 10m/s (of block B using qE/m)
v = root(2as) = 6m/s
mv = 2mv'
v' = 3m/s (combined velocity of the system)

1/2 mv^2 = 1/2 kx^2 - qEx
9 = 9x^2 - 10x
x = -0.588
The answer is -5/9, which is quite close to my answer but not exactly.
Can someone just tell me if what I've done is right?
 
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erisedk said:
1/2 mv^2 = 1/2 kx^2 - qEx
9 = 9x^2 - 10x
x = -0.588
The answer is -5/9, which is quite close to my answer but not exactly.
Can someone just tell me if what I've done is right?
Your equation makes no sense. It is not even dimensionally correct. qE is a force, the other terms are energy.
At equilibrium the electrostatic force must be equal and opposite to the spring force. That gives x = -5/9 exactly.
 
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rude man said:
Your equation makes no sense. It is not even dimensionally correct. qE is a force, the other terms are energy.
At equilibrium the electrostatic force must be equal and opposite to the spring force. That gives x = -5/9 exactly.

He put qEx, not qE, which is an attempt to add in a work contribution i. E. Fd.

Although your method seems correct, just didn't want to give him the wrong idea
 
Brian T said:
He put qEx, not qE, which is an attempt to add in a work contribution i. E. Fd.
OK, I thought he meant E-sub-x. Still doesn't make sense, the equation I mean.
Although your method seems correct, just didn't want to give him the wrong idea
Well, my method has to be correct. May be some other way is too.
 
Okay thanks, got it!
 

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