Solve Electron Current in 1.00mm Gold Wire: How Long for 1 Mole?

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The problem involves calculating the time it takes for one mole of electrons to flow through a cross-section of a gold wire with a specified diameter and electron drift speed. The subject area includes concepts from electricity and material properties, particularly focusing on current and electron flow in conductive materials.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of electron current and the interpretation of the problem statement. There is confusion regarding whether the question asks for the time taken for one mole of electrons to flow or the number of moles flowing in a day. Some participants suggest clarifying the problem's wording and units.

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The discussion is ongoing with attempts to clarify the problem statement and the calculations involved. Some participants have offered insights into unit conversions and the interpretation of results, while others are still seeking clarity on the original question.

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There is mention of potential confusion due to the phrasing of the problem, and participants are considering how to properly interpret the relationship between moles, current, and time. The original poster acknowledges a mistake in their calculations and seeks further guidance.

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Homework Statement


The electron drift speed in a 1.00 -mm-diameter gold wire is 5.50*10^-5 m/s
How long does it take 1 mole of electrons to flow through a cross section of the wire in a day?


Homework Equations


i=n*A*v_d
N_e=i*delta(t)

The Attempt at a Solution


First I figured out the electron current.

i=((5.9*10^28)*(.0005^2*pi)*(5.50*10^-5)
i=2.55*10^18 e-/sec

Since electron current is the amount of electrons per second I multiplied by 86,400s in a day:

N_e=(2.55*10^18)*(86400)
N_e=2.20*10^23

This gives me the number of electrons that pass through a cross sectional area. Since they are asking for 1 mole I divided by 6.02*10^23

(2.20*10^23)/(6.02*10^23)
=.366 days

This answer is wrong. I don't know what I'm doing wrong. Any help?
 
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fsm said:
The electron drift speed in a 1.00 -mm-diameter gold wire is 5.50*10^-5 m/s
How long does it take 1 mole of electrons to flow through a cross section of the wire in a day?
Is there additional information available? Are you sure you copied the problem correctly? The last sentence doesn't make sense.
 
Your question doesn’t make any sense the way it is. This is what I was trying to get you to clarify in the other thread you started on this problem.

Do you mean how long does it take (in days) one mole of electrons to flow through the cross-section, or do you mean how many moles of electrons flow through the cross-section in one day? These are not the same thing, although the calculation will be nearly identical.

I’m guessing it is supposed to read more like “How long does it take 1 mole of electrons to flow through a cross section of the wire, in days?” Please tell me if this is the right interpretation.

The units of your answer is not in days, it is in moles/day. Try taking the inverse of the 0.366 you found, I suspect that will give you the right answer. What you have calculated is 0.366 moles/day (i.e. 0.366 moles will pass through the cross-section in 1 day). What I think you want is how many days will it take for one mole to pass through the cross-section. Can you see what I’m getting at?

You need to make sure your units work out properly when you do this calculation. I think that is likely what is causing the problem here.

Remember that it is 6.022x10^23 electrons/mole. The mole counts as a unit when you are doing this. So be aware of that when you are dividing.
 
Sorry about the confusion. I forgot the s in days. I started a new thread on this because through my own fault made the problem too confusing. I guess I did it again . What I did wrong was I should have divided the constant of a mole by the electron current. This gives moles per second. Then divide that answer by 86400 to get 1 mole in x days which was 2.73 days. Thanks for the help and sorry for the confusion.
 
fsm said:
Sorry about the confusion. I forgot the s in days. I started a new thread on this because through my own fault made the problem too confusing. I guess I did it again . What I did wrong was I should have divided the constant of a mole by the electron current. This gives moles per second. Then divide that answer by 86400 to get 1 mole in x days which was 2.73 days. Thanks for the help and sorry for the confusion.

Glad it's all figured out! :smile:
 

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