Solve Equation 5x - ||v|| v = ||w||(w-5x)

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The discussion revolves around solving the equation 5x - ||v|| v = ||w||(w-5x) for x, given specific vectors v and w. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and problem-solving techniques related to vector norms and equations.

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  • One participant quotes the original problem and presents the equation to be solved.
  • Another participant provides a step-by-step transformation of the equation, leading to a formula for x, while substituting the norms of v and w.
  • A different participant suggests an alternative approach by immediately substituting the values of v and w into the equation, calculating the norms as part of their process.
  • This participant then reformulates the equation into four numeric equations based on their substitutions.
  • One participant expresses a preference for generalization over immediate substitution, indicating differing approaches to the problem.

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Participants express differing preferences for how to approach the problem, with some favoring immediate substitution of values and others advocating for a more generalized method. No consensus is reached on the preferred method of solving the equation.

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I quote an unsolved question from MHF posted by user Civy71 on February 18th, 2013
Solve the equation 5x - ||v|| v = ||w||(w-5x) for x with v = (1, 2, -4, 0) and w = (-3, 5, 1, 1)
 
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We have:

$
\begin{aligned}5x-||v||v=||w||(w-5x)&\Leftrightarrow 5x+5||w||x=||w||w+||v||v\\&\Leftrightarrow 5(1+||w||)x=||w||w+||v||v\\&\Leftrightarrow x=\dfrac{1}{5(1+||w||)}(||w||w+||v||v)
\end{aligned}
$

Now, substitute $v=(1, 2, -4, 0)$, $w=(-3, 5, 1, 1 )$, $||w||=6$, $||v||=\sqrt{21}$.
 
Personally, I would have immediately substituted the given values for v and w.

5x - ||v|| v = ||w||(w-5x) for x with v = (1, 2, -4, 0) and w = (-3, 5, 1, 1)
so ||v||= \sqrt{1+ 4+ 16}= \sqrt{21} and ||w||= \sqrt{9+ 25+ 1+ 1}= \sqrt{38}

Let x= (w, x, y, z) so the equation becomes
(5w, 5x, 5y, 5z)- (\sqrt{21}, 2\sqrt{21}, -4\sqrt{21}, 0)= (-3\sqrt{38}, 5\sqrt{38}, \sqrt{38}, \sqrt{38})- (5\sqrt{38}w, 5\sqrt{38}x, 5\sqrt{38}y, 5\sqrt{38}z)
which gives the four numeric equations
5w- \sqrt{21}= -3\sqrt{38}- 5\sqrt{38}w
5x- 2\sqrt{21}= 5\sqrt{38}- 5\sqrt{38}x
5y+ 4\sqrt{21}= \sqrt{38}- 5\sqrt{38}y
5z= \sqrt{38}- 5\sqrt{38}z
 
HallsofIvy said:
Personally, I would have immediately substituted the given values for v and w.

All right, no problem with that. My preference was for the sake of generalization.
 

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