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The problem involves finding the function M in the context of an exact differential equation represented by M(x, y)dx + (x^2 - y^2)dy = 0. Participants are exploring the relationship between M and the given equation, focusing on the conditions for exactness.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the integration of the term (x^2 - y^2) with respect to y and how it leads to the expression for M. There is an examination of the relationship between M and the function f(x) as part of the solution. Some participants question the naming conventions of the arbitrary function involved in the integration process.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing insights into the integration process and the conditions for exactness. There is recognition of the equivalence between different expressions for M, though no consensus has been reached on the final form.

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Participants are working under the constraints of the problem statement, which specifies the need for M to satisfy the condition My = Nx. The discussion reflects on the implications of integrating with respect to y while treating x as a constant.

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Homework Statement


Find the function M such that M(x, y)dx+(x^2-y^2)dy=0 is exact.

Homework Equations


This is an exact equation.

The Attempt at a Solution


Here's my work:

integral of (x^2-y^2)dy=yx^2-y^3/3+h(x)=C
2xy+h'(x)=M(x, y)
But the answer in the book is M(x, y)=2xy+f(x). How do I get to the answer from there?
 
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By putting h'(x)=f(x)
 
Math10 said:

Homework Statement


Find the function M such that M(x, y)dx+(x^2-y^2)dy=0 is exact.

Homework Equations


This is an exact equation.

The Attempt at a Solution


Here's my work:

integral of (x^2-y^2)dy=yx^2-y^3/3+h(x)=C
2xy+h'(x)=M(x, y)
But the answer in the book is M(x, y)=2xy+f(x). How do I get to the answer from there?

So you have ##M(x,y)=2xy+h'(x)## and the book has ##M(x,y)=2xy+f(x)##. Seems to me that your answer is basically the same as the book's; you just have different names for the the "extra" function of ##x##.
 
Math10 said:

Homework Statement


Find the function M such that M(x, y)dx+(x^2-y^2)dy=0 is exact.

Homework Equations


This is an exact equation.

The Attempt at a Solution


Here's my work:

integral of (x^2-y^2)dy=yx^2-y^3/3+h(x)=C
2xy+h'(x)=M(x, y)
But the answer in the book is M(x, y)=2xy+f(x). How do I get to the answer from there?
They want a function M such that My = Nx.
IOW,
$$\frac{\partial M}{\partial y} = \frac{\partial (x^2 - y^2)}{\partial x} = 2x$$
If you integrate 2x with respect to y, you get 2xy + some arbitrary function of x. Taking the partial with respect to y of a function that involves only x is similar to taking the derivative of a constant.
 
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Let f(x,y) be any function of two variables and assume that x and y are themselves functions of some variable, t. Then we could write f as a function of the single variable t and, by the chain rule, [itex]df/dt= (\partial f/\partial x) dx/dt+ (\partial f/\partial y)dy/dt[/itex]. In terms of "differentials" that is [itex]df= (\partial f/\partial x)dx+ (\partial f/\partial y)dy[/itex].

An expression of the form [itex]M(x,y)dx+ N(x,y)dy[/itex] is an "exact differential" if and only if there exist a function f such that [itex]\partial f/\partial x= M(x, y)[/itex] and [itex]\partial f/\partial y= N(x, y)[/itex]. Of course, if that is true, we have [itex]\partial M/\partial y= \partial^2 f/\partial x\partial y[/itex] and [itex]\partial N/\partial x= \partial^2 f/\partial y\partial x[/itex]. But those "mixed second partial derivatives" must be equal so to be an "exact differential" we must have [itex]\partial M/\partial y= \partial N/\partial x[/itex]

Here, [itex]N= x^2- y^2[/itex] so that [itex]\partial N/\partial x= 2x[/itex]. We must have [itex]\partial M/\partial y= 2x[/itex] so that, integrating with respect to y while holding x constant, we have [itex]M= 2xy+ f(x)[/itex]. "f(x)" is the constant of integration- since we integrate with respect to y while holding x constant, that "constant of integration" can be any function of x.
 
Mark44 said:
They want a function M such that My = Nx.
IOW,
$$\frac{\partial M}{\partial y} = \frac{\partial (x^2 - y^2)}{\partial x} = 2x$$
If you integrate 2x with respect to y, you get 2xy + some arbitrary function of x. Taking the partial with respect to y of a function that involves only x is similar to taking the derivative of a constant.
Thank you so much, @Mark44!
 

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