Solve for y: Explicit Function of y^2 + xy = x^2 | Tips and Examples

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The discussion revolves around solving the equation y^2 + xy = x^2 for y as an explicit function of x. Participants are exploring the implications of this quadratic equation in the context of algebraic manipulation and function representation.

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  • Participants are attempting to express y explicitly, with some suggesting the use of the quadratic formula. Others are questioning the validity of proposed solutions and the need for simplification.

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The conversation is ongoing, with various approaches being discussed, including the quadratic formula and factoring methods. Some participants express confusion and seek clarification on the steps involved in solving the equation.

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There are indications of differing levels of familiarity with quadratic equations among participants, and some are referencing external resources for additional guidance. The discussion reflects a mix of attempts to clarify the problem and explore potential solutions.

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Express y as an explicit function
y^2 +xy = x^2

I was unable to get this this are my steps:
Y(x + y) = x^2
X + y = x^2/y
X=x^2/y – y………..kindly assist
 
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It appears that you have to solve a quadratic equation, right ? Remeber you need y=y(x).
 
so will i be right to say y=0 and y=x^2-x.
 
I don;t think so. Just check the 2 solutions you found/propose by plugging in the initial implicit equation. You should normally find tautological relations, but you don't.

So one more time

[tex]y^2 + xy - x^2 = 0[/tex] what is y in terms of x equal to ?
 
dextercioby said:
I don;t think so. Just check the 2 solutions you found/propose by plugging in the initial implicit equation. You should normally find tautological relations, but you don't.

So one more time

[tex]y^2 + xy - x^2 = 0[/tex] what is y in terms of x equal to ?

ok am bit confused here make it a bit simple.we need to exprex y as a function of x.and that is the information i need.simplify the quadratic for me
 
dextercioby said:
So you don't know how to solve the quadratic equation ? This is quite basic stuff. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadratic_equation

i still insist show me how you gat the factors of the quadratic equation i have followed examples and not any close my study has been on the following procedure:,
Quadratic Equation in Two Variables

Introduction about quadratic equation:

An equation which contains more than one terms are squared but no higher power in terms, having the syntax, ax2+bxy+cy2 =0 where a represents the numerical coefficient of x2, b represents the numerical coefficient of xy, and c represents the numerical coefficient of y2

Example: x2+2xy+y2

In this article we shall discuss about the how to solve quadratic equation in two variables with suitable example problem.
Example Problem of Quadratic Equation in Two Variables:

Solve the quadratic equation by factoring method and find the factor?

X2+7xy+10y2

Solution:

Step 1: Multiply the coefficient of x2 and the coefficient of y2,

1*10 =10 (product term)

Step 2: Find the factors for the product term

10--- > 5*2= 10 (factors are 5 and 2)

10 --- > 5+2 = 7(7 is equal to the coefficient of xy)

Step 3: Separate the coefficient of xy

X2+7xy+10y2

x2+5xy+2xy+10y2

Step 4: Taking the common term x for the first two terms and 2y for the next two terms

x(x+5y) +2y(x+5y)

(x+2y) (x+5y)

Factors are (x+2y) (x+5y)
 
[tex]y^2 + xy - x^2 = 0[/tex]
How about this? Solve for y by using the quadratic formula, with
a = 1
b = x
c = -x2
 
eumyang said:
[tex]y^2 + xy - x^2 = 0[/tex]
how about this? Solve for y by using the quadratic formula, with
a = 1
b = x
c = -x2

you get f=( -x + or - x√5)/2 so?
 
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So that means that you've got several solutions.

[tex]y(x) = \frac{1}{2} \left(-x\pm |x|\sqrt 5\right)[/tex]

Any of the two functions can be considered an explicitation of y wrt x.
 
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dextercioby said:
So that means that you've got several solutions.

[tex]y(x) = \frac{1}{2} \left(-x\pm |x|\sqrt 5\right)[/tex]

Any of the two functions can be considered an explicitation of y wrt x.[/QUOTE

Thanks a lot long live physics forum man.I love Mathematics.
 
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dextercioby said:
[tex]y(x) = \frac{1}{2} \left(-x\pm |x|\sqrt 5\right)[/tex]

You don't need the absolute value sign since we have a [tex]\pm[/tex] just before it :wink:
 

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