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To solve the GRE problem regarding the distinct model numbers, the fundamental counting principle is applied, resulting in 2160 possible combinations. For the second question about forming committees, the method differs since it involves combinations rather than permutations. The number of ways to choose 7 people from a group of 10 is calculated using the formula for combinations, yielding 120 distinct committees. It is emphasized that order does not matter in this scenario, which is crucial for using the combination formula. This discussion highlights the importance of distinguishing between permutations and combinations in problem-solving.
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Hello! What is the fastest way to solve the following (I'm prepping for GRE and going too slow right now):"An appliances model number has three alphanumeric characters. The first character must be one of 24 permissible letters in the alphabet. The next character is numeric, a digit from 1 to 9. The last character is also numeric, ranging from 0 to 9.

How many distinct model numbers are possible? "Thank you SO MUCH for your help!
 
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For this, we can apply the fundamental counting principle to state that the number $N$ of distinct model numbers is given by:

$$N=(24)(9)(10)=2160$$
 
Thank you so much. Would I use the same method for this problem:

"how many different committees of 7 people can be formed from a group of 10 people?"
 
greprep said:
Thank you so much. Would I use the same method for this problem:

"how many different committees of 7 people can be formed from a group of 10 people?"

No, that requires using a combination, or binomial coefficient. Let's look at how we can determine this number without simply using a formula.

We know that for the first position on the committee, we have 10 choices, for the second we have 9 choices and so forth down to 4 choices for the 7th and final position. Now, if the order in which the members of the committee mattered, the number of ways we could choose the committee would in fact use the fundamental counting principle. Let's call the number of ways to pick such a committee, where the order chosen matters, as $N_1$...we would have:

$$N_1=10\cdot9\cdot8\cdot7\cdot6\cdot5\cdot4=\frac{10!}{3!}=\frac{10!}{(10-7)!}$$

This is referred to as permutations, and if we choose $r$ objects from $n$, where $r\le n$, then we may use the special notation:

$$_rP_n=\frac{n!}{(n-r)!}$$

However, since the order does not matter in this case, we are only interested in finding how many ways 7 can be chosen from 10 (will call this number $N$), we need to divide the previous result by the number of ways to order 7 objects, which is $7!$...thus:

$$N=\frac{N_1}{7!}=\frac{10!}{7!(10-7)!}$$

For the general case, where we are choosing $r$ objects from $n$ objects, where $r\le n$, we would have:

$$N=\frac{n!}{r!(n-r)!}$$

In probability, this is a special formula, and is referred to as combinations, and uses the notations:

$$_nC_r={n \choose r}=\frac{n!}{r!(n-r)!}$$

So, the answer to the question you asked is:

$$N={10 \choose 7}=\frac{10!}{7!(10-7)!}=\,?$$

By the way, for future reference, please start a new thread for a new question...this way our threads don't potentially become convoluted and difficult to follow. :)
 
Awesome! So the answer here would just then just be (10)(9)(8)(7)(6)(5)(4), or 604,800.
 
greprep said:
Awesome! So the answer here would just then just be (10)(9)(8)(7)(6)(5)(4), or 604,800.

That would be the correct number if the order in which the committee was chosen mattered, but in this case order doesn't matter.

$$N={10 \choose 7}=\frac{10!}{7!(10-7)!}=\frac{10\cdot9\cdot8}{3\cdot2}=5\cdot3\cdot8=120$$
 
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