Solve Limit at Infinity: $(-1)^n \sqrt{n+1}/n$

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the limit of the expression $$\lim_{n\to\infty} \dfrac{(-1)^n\sqrt{n+1}}{n}$$, which involves concepts from calculus, particularly limits and the behavior of sequences as they approach infinity.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the validity of using logarithms and absolute values in the limit evaluation. There are questions about the correct variable for the limit, with some suggesting it should be $$n \to \infty$$ instead of $$x \to \infty$$. Others discuss the relevance of the factor $$(-1)^n$$ and suggest using the squeeze theorem for evaluation.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights and corrections regarding the approach taken. Some guidance has been offered regarding the unnecessary use of logarithms and absolute values, and the suggestion to focus on the limit of the sequence directly.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted confusion regarding the variable used in the limit, as well as the appropriateness of certain mathematical operations in the context of the problem. Participants are also considering the implications of the alternating factor $$(-1)^n$$ on the limit's evaluation.

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Homework Statement


$$\lim_{x\to\infty} \dfrac{(-1)^n\sqrt{n+1}}{n}$$

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3. The Attempt at a Solution [/B]
This is what I managed to do but I just wanted to verify that this is the correct way of solving it, I'm mainly concerned about the fact that I took the absolute value with the log function, is that a valid operation?
$$y=\lim_{x\to\infty} \dfrac{(-1)^n\sqrt{n+1}}{n} $$
$$ \ln y=\lim_{x\to\infty} \ln|\dfrac{(-1)^n\sqrt{n+1}}{n}| $$
$$ \ln y=\lim_{x\to\infty} \ln|\dfrac{(-1)^n\sqrt{n+1}}{n}| $$
$$\ln y=\lim_{x\to\infty} \ln|(-1)^n|+\lim_{x\to\infty} \ln|\dfrac{\sqrt{n+1}}{n}|$$
$$\ln y=\lim_{x\to\infty} \dfrac{\ln|1|}{n^{-1}}+\lim_{x\to\infty} \ln|{\sqrt{1/n+1/n^2}}|$$
$$\ln y=\lim_{x\to\infty} \dfrac{0}{n^{-2}}+ \ln|0|$$
$$\ln y=-\infty$$
$$y=e^{-\infty}$$
$$y=0$$
 
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Potatochip911 said:

Homework Statement


$$\lim_{x\to\infty} \dfrac{(-1)^n\sqrt{n+1}}{n}$$

Homework Equations


3. The Attempt at a Solution [/B]
This is what I managed to do but I just wanted to verify that this is the correct way of solving it, I'm mainly concerned about the fact that I took the absolute value with the log function, is that a valid operation?
$$y=\lim_{x\to\infty} \dfrac{(-1)^n\sqrt{n+1}}{n} $$
$$ \ln y=\lim_{x\to\infty} \ln|\dfrac{(-1)^n\sqrt{n+1}}{n}| $$
$$ \ln y=\lim_{x\to\infty} \ln|\dfrac{(-1)^n\sqrt{n+1}}{n}| $$
$$\ln y=\lim_{x\to\infty} \ln|(-1)^n|+\lim_{x\to\infty} \ln|\dfrac{\sqrt{n+1}}{n}|$$
$$\ln y=\lim_{x\to\infty} \dfrac{\ln|1|}{n^{-1}}+\lim_{x\to\infty} \ln|{\sqrt{1/n+1/n^2}}|$$
$$\ln y=\lim_{x\to\infty} \dfrac{0}{n^{-2}}+ \ln|0|$$
$$\ln y=-\infty$$
$$y=e^{-\infty}$$
$$y=0$$

There's a whole lot else wrong in there too. What's with the limit ##x \to \infty## when there is no ##x## in the expression? Assume you meant ##n \to \infty##. And there's not need to take a log to begin with. You seem ok with ##lim_{n \to\infty} \dfrac{\sqrt{n+1}}{n}=0##. The ##(-1)^n## doesn't change that much. Just use a squeeze argument.
 
Dick said:
There's a whole lot else wrong in there too. What's with the limit ##x \to \infty## when there is no ##x## in the expression? Assume you meant ##n \to \infty##. And there's not need to take a log to begin with. You seem ok with ##lim_{n \to\infty} \dfrac{\sqrt{n+1}}{n}=0##. The ##(-1)^n## doesn't change that much. Just use a squeeze argument.
Could you explain what's wrong other than the fact I accidentally used x->infinity so I don't make that mistake again?
 
Potatochip911 said:
Could you explain what's wrong other than the fact I accidentally used x->infinity so I don't make that mistake again?

Not as much as I thought at first, but the limit of ##x_n## is not necessarily the same as ##|x_n|##. I would just skip the log and absolute value in the argument altogether.
 
Ignoring the (-1)n factor for the moment, you have
##\frac{\sqrt{n+1}}{n} = \frac{\sqrt{n}\sqrt{1 + 1/n}}{\sqrt{n}\sqrt{n}} = \frac {\sqrt{1 + 1/n}}{\sqrt{n}}##
Can you take the limit now?

For the original problem, use the squeeze theorem that Dick suggests. I agree that logs and absolute values are not needed.
 

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