Solve Messy Logic Problem | Hayden Kee

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The discussion revolves around a complex logic problem involving variables A, B, C, and D. The main goal is to determine the validity of the argument presented. Hayden initially struggles with the logic but eventually finds a solution by assuming B and C to be true, leading to the conclusion that D must be false. This deduction allows Hayden to eliminate the disjunction D v A, resulting in the conclusion that A must be true. Further analysis reveals that if C implies A, then the assumption of B must be false based on the third premise. Another participant shares a similar approach, detailing their sub-derivations and expressing difficulty in deriving A from the C sub-derivation. The conversation highlights the challenges of logical reasoning and the collaborative effort to solve the problem.
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Hi,

Really struggling with this logic problem, would be very grateful to anyone willing to help

A v D
(~B ^ ~C) <==> D
B ==> ~(C ==> A)
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~B

Thanks in advance

Hayden Kee
 
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What exactly do you want to do? Determine whether or not the argument is valid?

What happens if you take A true, B true, C false, and D false?
 
trying to derive the conclusion
I did eventually work it out by assuming B and C to be true, after which I was able to show that D must be false, which allowed me to Eliminate the D v A disjunction showing that A is the result either way. Therefore I was left with C==>A which proved that my assumption of B must be false because of the third premise.

Thanks,

Hayden
 
I've also assumed B and C, with the C sub-derivation ending with A, and the final three lines of the B sub-derivation ending with the following:
W| C => A
X| B => ~(C =>A)
Y| ~(C =>A)

This allows ~I for the conclusion of ~B through the B assumption (line 4), and the contradictory pair on lines W and Y:

Z| ~B 4, W, Y, ~I

What I can't figure out is how to get A on the C sub-derivation. :S
 
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