Solve Momentum Problem: White & Red Pool Balls Collide

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The problem involves a collision between two pool balls, a white ball and a red ball, where the white ball is moving towards the red ball. The scenario is set in the context of an elastic collision, requiring the application of both momentum and kinetic energy conservation principles to find the final velocities of the balls after the collision.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the conservation of momentum and kinetic energy as key principles for solving the problem. There is a focus on how to relate the two variables for the final velocities of the balls, with some suggesting the use of substitution to eliminate one variable.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on using the conservation of kinetic energy to create a second equation, which could help in solving for the final velocities. There is ongoing exploration of how to effectively relate momentum and kinetic energy in this context, with multiple interpretations being considered.

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The discussion highlights the challenge of dealing with two variables resulting from the different masses of the balls, and the need for additional equations to resolve them. The problem is framed within the constraints of an elastic collision, which necessitates both momentum and kinetic energy conservation.

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Homework Statement


"A white pool ball (m1 = .3kg) moving at a speed of Vo1 = 3m/s collisdes head-on with a red pool ball (m2 = .4kg) initially moving at a speed of Vo2 = -2m/s. Neglecting friction and assuming the collision is perfectly elastic, what is the velocity of each ball after the collision?"

Underneath the question are two diagrams, a diagram labeled before (shows a white and red ball moving towards one another) and a diagram labeled after (shows the collision and the balls moving in opposite directions).

Homework Equations



p before = p after

The Attempt at a Solution



p before = p after
p1 + p2 = p1' + p2'
m1v1 + m2v2 = m1v1' + m2v2'
(.3kg)(3m/s) + (.4kg)(-2m/s) = (.3kg)v1' + (.4kg)v2'
.1 Ns = .3v1' + .4v2'

This is where I'm getting stuck...Since the balls have different masses, the velocities v1' and v2' will be different, but how can you make the two variables into one, and solve for the speeds?

Any help will be appreciated.
 
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Perfectly elastic collisions also conserve kinetic energy.
 
i'm still kind of confused...how exactly do you relate kinetic energy and momentum. I know that KE = 1/2mv^2...so does that mean you can solve v1' and v2' independly using just KE?
 
aeroengphys said:
i'm still kind of confused...how exactly do you relate kinetic energy and momentum. I know that KE = 1/2mv^2...so does that mean you can solve v1' and v2' independly using just KE?

No, the conservation of kinetic energy equation will provide you with a second equation for v1' and v2'. Consider it in the same way in which you have considered the conservation of momentum, i.e total KE before = total KE after. This and the conservation of momentum equation will enable you to solve for v1' and v2'.
 
You can use one equation to eliminate one variable by substituting into the other equation.
 

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