Solve Parametric Eq: Semicircle Mean Value w/ Respect to Theta

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The discussion revolves around the parametric equations of a semicircle defined by \( x = a \cos \theta \) and \( y = a \sin \theta \) for \( 0 \leq \theta \leq \pi \). The original poster seeks to find the mean value of the ordinates of the semicircle with respect to \( \theta \) and is looking for guidance on how to express this in terms of \( \theta \) for integration.

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  • The original poster attempts to relate the sine and cosine functions to the semicircle's equation but expresses confusion about the integration process. Some participants question the validity of the original poster's expressions and clarify the relationships between the trigonometric functions and the semicircle. Others suggest writing the integral in terms of \( \theta \) and inquire about the expression for \( dx \).

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The discussion is active, with participants providing clarifications and suggestions for expressing the integral. There is a focus on ensuring the correctness of the parametric representation and the need to derive \( dx \) in terms of \( \theta \). Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, and helpful guidance has been offered regarding the differentiation process.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of parametric equations and integration, with some expressing uncertainty about the relationships involved. The original poster has indicated a lack of familiarity with the topic, which may influence the discussion's direction.

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The semicircle [tex]\mbox{f(x) = }\sqrt{a^2-x^2} \mbox{ -a} <=\mbox{ x }<= \mbox{a }[/tex], ( see my last thread) has the parametric equations [tex]x= }a cos\theta\mbox{, y=} a sin\theta, 0 <= \theta <= \pi[/tex], show that the mean value with respect to [tex]\theta[/tex] of the ordinates of the semicircle is [tex]2a/\pi(.64a)[/tex].
Can someone show how you can get an expression in [tex]\theta[/tex], so I can integrate it, I 'm new to parametric equations. Thanks for the help.
My attempt: [tex]a sin\theta = \sqrt{a^2-a^2cos^2\theta}\mbox{ which gives } a sin\theta = a sin\theta\mbox {which is what you would expect}[/tex]
 
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Well, you can't get what you wrote- it isn't true! For one thing, when [itex]\theta= 0[/itex], a sin(0)= 0 but [itex]\sqrt{a^2- a^2 sin^2(0)}= a[/itex]. Did you mean [itex]a cos\theta = \sqrt{a^2- a^2sin^2\theta}[/itex]? That true because [itex]\sqrt{a^2- a^2sin^2\theta}= \sqrt{a^2(1- sin^2\theta )}= \sqrt{a^2 cos^2\theta}[/itex].
 
Sorry for the mistake I meant [tex]a sin\theta = \sqrt{a^2-a^2cos^2\theta}\mbox{ which gives } a sin\theta = a sin\theta[/tex], which is of no help.
 
It also shows y=sqrt(a^2-x^2), which shows your parametric representation is correct. Now just write your integral of y dx in terms of theta. What's dx?
 
[tex]\int_{\theta=0}^{\theta=\pi} \sqrt{a^2-a^2 cos^2\theta}dx[/tex], I don't know what dx is in terms of [tex]\theta[/tex]. Can someone show me please? Thanks for the help.
 
Write dx=d(a*cos(theta)). It's just like finding du in a change of variable. Just differentiate!
 

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