Solve Physics Problem: Ball Thrown Vertically Upward

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The problem involves a ball thrown vertically upward with an initial speed \( v_0 \) and seeks to determine the height \( h \) at which the kinetic energy of the ball decreases to half its initial value, ignoring air resistance.

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between kinetic energy and height, with some suggesting to analyze the change in speed when kinetic energy is halved. Others propose using energy conservation principles and equations of motion to explore the problem further.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering hints and raising questions about the kinetic energy at different heights and the total energy throughout the ball's trajectory. There are multiple interpretations of the problem, and various approaches are being explored without a clear consensus on the method to solve it.

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The original poster expresses difficulty in articulating the problem due to language barriers, and some participants note the importance of showing work in accordance with forum guidelines.

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At school we have a problem to solve but i don't know how to solve this problem.
Here is the condition:"Ball is throw vertical upward with inceptive speed v0.Of what height h the kinetic energy of the ball decrease two times? Resistance of the air is ignored." I am sorry if don't write it right but i don't know english very good.I need help please if anyone can help write the solution of the problem.
 
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Is the question something like: "At what height is the kinetic energy equal to half of the initial kinetic energy?"
 
Nope its not like that.The answer of this problem is "h=v0(the null is index)2(2 is power)/4g
but i don't know how to get to the answer.
 
With that answer, it seems like the question is what I posted.

Ok, a few hints/questions:
1. What is the kinetic energy at the original position?
2. What does the total energy add up to at all points on the ball's trajectory?
3. What other energy does the ball have at the height you require?
 
First find how the speed has changed when the Kinetic energy has decreased 2 times
So u see its 1/sqrt(2)times the original vo
then using the eq of motion 2gh=vf(2 in power) - vi (2 in power)
and putting vf=0 u can find h
 
Virtual R said:
First find how the speed has changed when the Kinetic energy has decreased 2 times
So u see its 1/sqrt(2)times the original vo
then using the eq of motion 2gh=vf(2 in power) - vi (2 in power)
and putting vf=0 u can find h

The expression for the height [itex]h[/itex] above the ground is actually a displacement and is sign sensitive. If you calculate positiv upwards, then the acceleration must be negative, since it is in the opposite direction.

As for the FlashMXHelp, a little different approach is as follows; the equation you need is as mentioned by Virtual,

[tex]-2gh = v^2 - v_0^2 \qquad\textrm{or}\qquad 2gh=v_0^2-v^2[/tex]

Where [itex]v[/itex] is the velocity (and speed) at a height [itex]h[/itex] above the ground where the ball is fired. In addition to cristo's hints, here is another one,
What is the velocity (speed) of the ball at a given height [itex]h[/itex], using the above equation?
Compare this to the initial kinetic energy (Cristo's 1. hint).
 
I originally attempted to hint to the original poster how to solve the problem, since his post didn't include any work (the other people posting in this thread should probably read the guidelines re giving help when no work is shown!)
P3X-018 said:
As for the FlashMXHelp, a little different approach is as follows; the equation you need is as mentioned by Virtual,

[tex]-2gh = v^2 - v_0^2 \qquad\textrm{or}\qquad 2gh=v_0^2-v^2[/tex]

It is far more intuitive to consider the total energy at all points during the particle's flight. Thus [tex]\frac{1}{2}mv_0^2=mgh+\frac{1}{2}mv^2[/tex] Now, you know the relationship between 1/2mv02 and 1/2mv2, and so you can solve this for h.
 
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