Solve Rocket Problem with Step-by-Step Guide | Imaginary Number Solution

Click For Summary
The discussion revolves around solving a rocket problem involving initial velocity and gravitational effects. A key error identified is in the equation v_0 = u^2 + 2gh, which has incorrect units and sign issues. The proposed revised equation for calculating initial velocity, u, still yields incorrect results, prompting requests for further assistance. Participants emphasize the need to ensure proper sign conventions, particularly since the rocket is decelerating while ascending. The conversation highlights the importance of accurate equations and assumptions in physics problems.
takelight2
Messages
12
Reaction score
1
Homework Statement
A toy rocket moving vertically upward passes by a 2.1 m -high window whose sill is 8.0 m above the ground. The rocket takes 0.13 s to travel the 2.1 m height of the window.


What was the launch speed of the rocket? Assume the propellant is burned very quickly at blastoff.
Relevant Equations
s = ut + 1/2at^2
This is what I tried and it makes perfect sense to me. When i plug in the numbers to what I ended up with, I get an imaginary number for U initial...

Work is attached below.
 

Attachments

  • EEBDAB96-74F2-41AA-82C4-D90668E3F106.jpeg
    EEBDAB96-74F2-41AA-82C4-D90668E3F106.jpeg
    97.9 KB · Views: 163
Physics news on Phys.org
One of the equations you wrote down, ##v_0 = u^2+2gh##, is incorrect. You can see that just from comparing the units on the lefthand side with the units of the righthand side.
 
vela said:
One of the equations you wrote down, ##v_0 = u^2+2gh##, is incorrect. You can see that just from comparing the units on the lefthand side with the units of the righthand side.
Oh yeah that makes sense. So that would change my final equation to this:

u = sqrt[([(s/t)+(1/2)(g)(t)]^2) -2gh]

But it still is giving me the wrong value D: Any other ideas?
 
takelight2 said:
So that would change my final equation to this:

u = sqrt[([(s/t)+(1/2)(g)(t)]^2) -2gh]

But it still is giving me the wrong value D: Any other ideas?
When you wrote the equation ##v_0 = u^2 + 2gh##, not only is there the mistake of not squaring ##v_0##, but there is also a sign error in the equation. Can you spot it?
 
takelight2 said:
Oh yeah that makes sense. So that would change my final equation to this:

u = sqrt[([(s/t)+(1/2)(g)(t)]^2) -2gh]

But it still is giving me the wrong value D: Any other ideas?
It seems to me that, if you are assuming u to be the launching velocity and Vo the velocity of the rocket when it was by the top of the window, either both signs in that equation are incorrect, or the input value of g should be negative.
Since the rocket is decelerating while flying upwards, Vo < u.

Please, see:
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/mot.html#mot4

:cool:
 
Thread 'Chain falling out of a horizontal tube onto a table'
My attempt: Initial total M.E = PE of hanging part + PE of part of chain in the tube. I've considered the table as to be at zero of PE. PE of hanging part = ##\frac{1}{2} \frac{m}{l}gh^{2}##. PE of part in the tube = ##\frac{m}{l}(l - h)gh##. Final ME = ##\frac{1}{2}\frac{m}{l}gh^{2}## + ##\frac{1}{2}\frac{m}{l}hv^{2}##. Since Initial ME = Final ME. Therefore, ##\frac{1}{2}\frac{m}{l}hv^{2}## = ##\frac{m}{l}(l-h)gh##. Solving this gives: ## v = \sqrt{2g(l-h)}##. But the answer in the book...

Similar threads

  • · Replies 47 ·
2
Replies
47
Views
3K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
1K
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
Replies
13
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K