Solve Tension Problem: 3kg Mass, 5.4kg Brick, 12.01N Friction

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a 3kg mass hanging over a pulley and a 5.4kg brick on a horizontal surface, with a frictional force of 12.01 N. Participants are exploring how to calculate the tension in the rope connecting these two objects.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the forces acting on both the hanging mass and the brick, including the role of friction and the need for free-body diagrams. There are attempts to relate the tension in the rope to the net forces acting on both objects.

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Some participants have provided insights into the relationship between tension and net forces, suggesting that drawing free-body diagrams may help clarify the problem. There is an acknowledgment of confusion regarding specific lab questions, indicating that the discussion is ongoing and participants are actively seeking clarity.

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Participants mention uncertainty about how to begin solving the problem and express confusion regarding specific aspects of the lab assignment, which may be influencing their understanding of the tension calculation.

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Homework Statement



Well for a lab we did, there's a 3kg mass hanging over a pulley, attached to a 5.4kg brick by a rope, causing the brick to accelerate over a horizontal surface. I have no idea how I'm supposed to calculate the tension.

Oh, and the force of friction is 12.01 N.

Homework Equations



F=ma?

The Attempt at a Solution



I don't even know where to begin.

Thank you!
 
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The total tension in the rope will be the net force acting on the brick. If you draw a free-body diagram, you see that the net force is equal to the frictional force subtracted from the tension caused by the 3kg mass.

[tex]T_{net}[/tex] = [tex]F_{net}[/tex] = ([tex]T_{mass}[/tex] - [tex]F_{friction}[/tex])
 
David999 said:

Homework Statement



Well for a lab we did, there's a 3kg mass hanging over a pulley, attached to a 5.4kg brick by a rope, causing the brick to accelerate over a horizontal surface. I have no idea how I'm supposed to calculate the tension.

Oh, and the force of friction is 12.01 N.

Homework Equations



F=ma?

The Attempt at a Solution



I don't even know where to begin.

Thank you!

Two forces (weight force minus tension force) act on the mass causing it to accelerate downward and two forces (tension force minus friction force) act on the brick causing it to accelerate horizontally at the same rate as the mass.
 
SArnab said:
The total tension in the rope will be the net force acting on the brick. If you draw a free-body diagram, you see that the net force is equal to the frictional force subtracted from the tension caused by the 3kg mass.

[tex]T_{net}[/tex] = [tex]F_{net}[/tex] = ([tex]T_{mass}[/tex] - [tex]F_{friction}[/tex])

You're a lifesaver! Thank you so much!

I had actually drawn a FBD and got tension= Fnet, but the there was a question on the lab which through me off... the equation you gave solves everything!
 

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