Solve the given differential equation

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The discussion revolves around solving a specific ordinary differential equation (ODE). Participants explore the nature of the equation and the methods available for finding solutions, both analytically and numerically.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss checking for exactness of the equation and the implications of finding it not exact. There are attempts to derive numerical solutions and considerations of the potential for analytical solutions. Some express uncertainty about the existence of an analytical solution.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants sharing their thoughts on numerical methods, particularly the Runge-Kutta method, as a viable approach. There is recognition of the challenges posed by the equation, and various perspectives on how to tackle it are being explored.

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Participants note that the ODE was devised without guarantees of an analytical solution, and there is an emphasis on pushing the boundaries of traditional problem-solving methods.

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Homework Statement
##(2xy+\cos y+\dfrac{2y}{x}-\sin x)dx +(x^2-y\sin y+1)dy=0##
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hybrid ode
Ok, i just came up with this ode. How does one go about to solve it?

My attempt

Let ##M(x,y) =(2xy+\cos y+\dfrac{2y}{x}-\sin x)## and ##N(x,y) = (x^2-y\sin y+1)##

##\dfrac{\partial M}{\partial y}= 2x - \sin y + \dfrac{2}{x}## and ##\dfrac{\partial N}{\partial x}= 2x##

Not exact.
 
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Say we have a point (x,y)=(x_0,y_0) on the solution, (x_0+\Delta x, y_0+\Delta y)
is also on the solution, where
\frac{\Delta y}{\Delta x}=\frac{dy}{dx}|_{x=x_0,y=y_0}=-\frac{2xy+\cos y+\frac{2y}{x}-\sin x}{x^2-y\sin y+1}|_{x=x_0,y=y_0}
In this way we can find successive solution points numerically. I have no idea how to get analytic solution if there is.
 
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chwala said:
Ok, i just came up with this ode.
There's no guarantee that an ODE devised more-or-less at random will have an analytical solution.
chwala said:
How does one go about to solve it?
Your approach of checking for exactness is a good start, but as you found, the equation isn't exact. Many textbooks on differential equations take this approach farther by making additional assumptions about the possible solutions.
@anuttarasammyak's suggestion of going for a numerical solution might be the only way forward here.
 
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Thanks for the thoughtful input — actually, I’ve taken this as a personal challenge! I’ll be applying the Runge-Kutta method to this problem and working through it manually as far as possible. I’m also committed to generating more of these hybrid-style problems that push the boundaries of how we see mathematics, rather than sticking to traditional textbook paths.

Your suggestion of checking for exactness was solid, and even though it didn’t yield a direct solution here, it shows the right instinct. I completely agree with @anuttarasammyak — numerical methods may indeed be our best route for a meaningful solution. Let’s stretch the limits a little!
 
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