Solve the given problem giving your answer as a single logarithm

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The discussion centers on the interpretation of "single logarithm" in an exam context, particularly regarding the expression x = ln(2)/2. Participants express concern that international students may struggle with this concept, and clarity is sought on whether full marks can be awarded for alternative forms like ln(2^(1/2)). The mark scheme indicates that full credit is likely for either ln(√2) or ln(2^(1/2)), but there may be deductions for presenting the answer as ln(2)/2. The conversation also addresses confusion over a reference to "k" in the mark scheme, which is clarified to be "x." Overall, the need for precise expression in logarithmic solutions is emphasized.
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Homework Statement
This is a past paper question. I have concern with the term single logarithm. Kindly see attached.
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Markscheme;

Not many international students would understand single logarithm as expected by examiners. In my take ##x = \dfrac{\ln 2}{2}## is single logarithm and therefore a full ##4## marks ought to be awarded.

In any case, the form;

## \dfrac{\ln 2}{2} = \ln 2^\frac{1}{2}##

are one and the same.

Kindly clarify on this.

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I guess they want everything "inside 1 logarithm"
 
chwala said:
In any case, the form; ## \dfrac{\ln 2}{2} = \ln 2^\frac{1}{2}##

scottdave said:
I guess they want everything "inside 1 logarithm"
Or stated equivalently, as the logarithm of a single expression, such as ##\ln 2^\frac{1}{2}##.
 
Mark44 said:
Or stated equivalently, as the logarithm of a single expression, such as ##\ln 2^\frac{1}{2}##.
So which is which... Student to lose final mark because of the requirement to express solution as per examiners perspective?
 
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chwala said:
Homework Statement: This is a past paper question. I have concern with the term single logarithm. Kindly see attached.
Relevant Equations: logs

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Markscheme;

Not many international students would understand single logarithm as expected by examiners. In my take ##x = \dfrac{\ln 2}{2}## is single logarithm and therefore a full ##5## marks ought to be awarded.

In any case, the form;

## \dfrac{\ln 2}{2} = \ln 2^\frac{1}{2}##

are one and the same.

Kindly clarify on this.

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Where does the ##k## in ##lnk## come from ( 3rd line from top, left side)?
 
WWGD said:
Where does the ##k## in ##lnk## come from ( 3rd line from top, left side)?
I do not understand your phrase. Did you understand my concern?
 
chwala said:
I do not understand your phrase. Did you understand my concern?
This comes from ## ln(a^b)=bln(a)##. Is that what you were asking?
I was referring to the 3rd cell down from the top , that makes reference to ##k##, without specifying what it is.
 
The mark scheme is attached sir, the full mark is allocated only if solution is expressed as indicated something that I have a problem with ... The previous steps drawing 3 marks also ought to have drawn the full 4 marks.
 
WWGD said:
Where does the ##k## in ##lnk## come from ( 3rd line from top, left side)?
What you're seeing as 'k' is actually 'x'.
 
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chwala said:
So which is which... Student to lose final mark because of the requirement to express solution as per examiners perspective?
From the mark scheme it seems pretty clear to me that full credit would be given for either ##\ln(\sqrt 2)## or ##\ln(2^{1/2})## (i.e., as the logarithm of a single expression) but possibly some deduction for ##\frac{\ln 2}2##.
 
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Mark44 said:
From the mark scheme it seems pretty clear to me that full credit would be given for either ##\ln(\sqrt 2)## or ##\ln(2^{1/2})## (i.e., as the logarithm of a single expression) but possibly some deduction for ##\frac{\ln 2}2##.
The mark scheme or the Mark44 scheme?
 
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Mark44 said:
What you're seeing as 'k' is actually 'x'.
I think the ##k## refers to the number ##2## (a constant, that is) and not ##x##.
 
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chwala said:
I think the ##k## refers to the number ##2## (a constant, that is) and not ##x##.
Right you are.

Here are some alternative forms of the solution as a single logarithm.

Note that if ##\displaystyle \ \{ A,\,B \} \ge 1\, ,\ ## then ##\displaystyle \log_A B = \dfrac{1}{\log_B A}\ .##

So, ##\displaystyle \ x = \dfrac{\ln 2}{2}=\dfrac{\log_{\Large{e}} 2}{2}=\dfrac{1}{2\, \ \log_2 e}=\dfrac{1}{ \ \log_2 e^2}\ .##

As well: ##\displaystyle \ x =\log_{\Large{(e^2)}} 2 \ .##
 
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