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The discussion focuses on solving the iterative equation related to the problem statement, specifically part Q.2 (ii). The correct equation derived is ##2x^3 + 50 = x^3 + 100##, leading to the solution ##x = \sqrt[3]{50} ≈ 3.68403##, identified as the convergent value. Participants noted a typographical error in the mark scheme, which incorrectly stated the solution as ##3\sqrt{50}## instead of the cube root. The conversation emphasizes the importance of recognizing all potential solutions, including ##x = 0##, while cautioning against dividing by the variable in equations.

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Homework Statement
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Relevant Equations
numerical analysis
I need insight on ##Q.2 (ii)## part only,

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find mark scheme here;
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How do we determine suitable equation, ##x=x...##?

ok, just looking at the solution, we shall have;
##2x^3+50 = x^3+100##
##x^3=50##
→##x##=##\sqrt[3]50##≡##3.68403## which is the value of ##α## ( convergent value as indicated in previous step).

I think it was an error to indicate ##3\sqrt 50## ...am assuming it was a typo error which is a bit misleading...been cracking my head trying to figure out on this.:cool:
 
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chwala said:
Homework Statement:: see attached
Relevant Equations:: numerical analysis

I need insight on ##Q.2 (ii)## part only,

View attachment 291842

find mark scheme here;
View attachment 291843

How do we determine suitable equation, ##x=x...##?

ok, just looking at the solution, we shall have;
##2x^3+50 = x^3+100##
##x^3=50##
→##x##=##\sqrt[3]50##≡##3.68403## which is the value of ##α## ( convergent value as indicated in previous step).
From the recurrence relation, you can write this:
$$x = \frac{x^4 + 100x}{2x^3 + 50} \Rightarrow 2x^4 + 50 x = x^4 + 100x$$
IOW, all I did was replace ##x_n## and ##x_{n + 1}## by x.
The latter equation simplifies to ##x(x^3 - 50) = 0##, so x = 0 or ##x = \sqrt[3]{50}##
chwala said:
I think it was an error to indicate ##3\sqrt 50## ...am assuming it was a typo error which is a bit misleading...been cracking my head trying to figure out on this.:cool:
Yes, it was a typo in the problem statement. They wrote ##3\sqrt{50}## when they should have written ##\sqrt[3]{50}##; i.e., the cube root of 50, not ##3 * \sqrt{50}##.
 
Nice Mark, but you also realize that we could divide both sides of the equation by ##x##... to realize the required solution...
##x=0## in this case would not apply.
 
chwala said:
Nice Mark, but you also realize that we could divide both sides of the equation by ##x##... to realize the required solution...
##x=0## in this case would not apply.
It's almost never a good idea to divide both sides of an equation by the variable. x = 0 is a solution of the equation ##2x^4 + 50x = x^4 + 100x##, and is in fact a solution of the iterative formula ##x_{n+1} = \frac{x_n}2 \cdot \frac{x_n^3 + 100}{x_n^3 + 25}##
 
Mark44 said:
It's almost never a good idea to divide both sides of an equation by the variable. x = 0 is a solution of the equation ##2x^4 + 50x = x^4 + 100x##, and is in fact a solution of the iterative formula ##x_{n+1} = \frac{x_n}2 \cdot \frac{x_n^3 + 100}{x_n^3 + 25}##
Ok cheers Mark...agreed in that case, we may say that the mark scheme was not conclusive on the possibilities of ##x##. They ought to have given provision for two solutions, then indicate that solution ##x=0## is "unsuitable".
 
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