Solve Z = x^2y - 2xy^2 + y - 8 and y = 2x^2 +3/x

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The discussion revolves around finding the derivative dz/dx for the function Z = x^2y - 2xy^2 + y - 8, given that y = 2x^2 + 3/x. Participants are exploring the relationships between the variables and the application of differentiation techniques.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss substituting y into the equation for Z to facilitate differentiation. There are attempts to apply the chain rule and concerns about the correctness of differentiation steps. Some participants question the interpretation of the function Z and the treatment of y as a function of x.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with various approaches being suggested. Some participants have provided guidance on using substitution and the chain rule, while others have raised questions about the validity of certain steps and interpretations. There is no explicit consensus on the correct method yet.

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Participants are navigating potential misunderstandings regarding the differentiation of composite functions and the specific forms of the equations involved. There is a mix of correct and incorrect reasoning being explored, highlighting the complexity of the problem.

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hay everyone...need some help on the question :cry:

I need to find dz/dx in terms of x and y, if:

Z = x^2y - 2xy^2 + y - 8 and y = 2x^2 +3/x!

tried solving it a few times, but its a difficult one! any help and working out would be great! :confused:
 
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We'd be better able to help if you show us what you've done.
 
Ok dz/dx

x = 2y - 4y +y

y = 4x + 3

dont think that is right!
 
You are given z as a function of x and y, and y as a function of x. So I suggest that you substitute all the y int he equation of z for their value in terms of x and then calculate dz/dx.
 
Use the chain rule. Since y is a function of x, dz/dx= 2xy+ x2y'- 2y2+ 4xy6y' + y'. since y = 2x2 +3/x, you can find y' as a funcion of x and substitute.
 
hey,
i think i can help,dz/dx=x^2y[dy/dx(log[x^2])+2y/x]-2y^2-4xydy/dx+dy/dx
where dy/dx=4x - {3/x!}[1/x+1/x-1+1/x-2+1/x-3...]
 
hey
hallsofivy ur step was wrong since y is a function of x can't differentiate like that
check ur solution one more time,ur step will be right if the question reads x^2 times y ,but if it is x raised to the power of 2y then mine is correct.also i hope the 6 in the function 4xy6y' was a typing mistake cos if it is not then ur answer is wrong.
 

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