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The problem involves two aircraft approaching a control center, with the goal of determining how close they will come to each other and the time before their closest approach. The context is related rates in calculus.

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  • Exploratory, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the setup of the problem, including the need to express the positions of the planes as functions of time. There is uncertainty about the relationship between the planes' paths and the angle of approach.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered guidance on formulating the position functions for the planes, while others express confusion about the initial setup and the necessary assumptions. There is an indication that progress is being made as one participant believes they have reached a clearer understanding.

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There is a mention of the assumption regarding the angle between the planes' approach paths, which remains unverified. The discussion reflects a lack of complete information on how to proceed with the calculations.

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Homework Statement


Two aircraft are in the vicinity of a control center. Both are at the same altitude. Plane 1 is 36 nautical miles from the center and approaching it at a rate of 410 knots. Plane 2 is 41 nautical miles from the center and approaching it at a rate of 455 knots. (One knot is 1 nautical mile per hour)

A) How close will the planes come to each other?
B) How many minutes before the time of closest approach?

The Attempt at a Solution



I can't figure out how to solve this... I keep getting stuck here is what I have done.

[tex]P_1(t)^2 + P_2(t)^2 = D(t)^2[/tex]

take the derivative

[tex]2P_1(t)P_1'(t) + 2P_2(t)P_2'(t) = 2D(t)D'(t)[/tex]

and then the place where the distance would be a minimum is where D'(t) = 0, but I keep getting stuck here because I don't know either of the two P(t)s. Can someone please help me set this problem correctly? Thanks
 
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I still can't figure this out, and I think I am not going about it properly. If someone could help me set it up I would appreciate it. Thanks
 
You can't do that at all unless you know something about the angle between the two planes approach paths. I'm guessing since you using Pythagoras that they are coming in at right angles? If so then just try to write P1 and P2 as explicit functions of t. They are linear functions (since velocity is constant). Try and start with P1(t). P1(0)=36mi. P1'(t)=410mi/hr, right? What does P1(t) look like?
 
P1(t) = -410t + 36
 
Now that I have two explicit functions of t, assuming that I did so correctly, what do I do next?
 
Sheneron said:
P1(t) = -410t + 36

Great! Now do P2(t) and put them into your equation.
 
ahhh yes i just saw it I think I have it now!

Thanks... I got it
 

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