Solving 2.43: Drawing Diagrams & Vector Lengths

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The discussion focuses on solving problem 2.43, which involves vector addition without redrawing diagrams. Participants emphasize that vector components can be expressed in terms of their magnitudes and angles, specifically using trigonometric functions. For vector $\mathbf{T}_1$, the components are defined as $\mathbf{T}_1 = \langle T \cos(9^{\circ}), T \sin(9^{\circ}) \rangle$. The final equation to solve for the tension T is established as $T[\langle \cos(9^{\circ}), \sin(9^{\circ})\rangle + \dots + \langle \cos(51^{\circ}), \sin(51^{\circ})\rangle ] = 12500$.

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I need help with 2.43
Is there any way to solve 2.43 without drawing the diagram again? And if I must draw another diagram, will I have to guess and check the length of the vectors since all the vectors are equal?
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You don't need to re-draw the diagram, but you do need to do vector addition: component-wise. Take $\mathbf{T}_1$, for example. You're told it has a magnitude of $T$. Can you write down the components of $\mathbf{T}_1?$
 
Ackbach said:
You don't need to re-draw the diagram, but you do need to do vector addition: component-wise. Take $\mathbf{T}_1$, for example. You're told it has a magnitude of $T$. Can you write down the components of $\mathbf{T}_1?$
The components of T1 will be T1x+T1y
 
Adhil said:
The components of T1 will be T1x+T1y

Sorry, I meant can you write down the components of $\mathbf{T}_1$ in terms of its magnitude $T$ and its angle, call it $\theta_1=9^{\circ}$?
 
Ackbach said:
Sorry, I meant can you write down the components of $\mathbf{T}_1$ in terms of its magnitude $T$ and its angle, call it $\theta_1=9^{\circ}$?
That would be T1=Tsin(9°)+Tcos(9°)
 
I would write it more like this (to emphasize its vector nature): $\mathbf{T}_1=\langle T \cos(9^{\circ}), T \sin(9^{\circ}) \rangle$, or $\mathbf{T}_1=T\cos(9^{\circ}) \,\hat{\mathbf{i}}+T\sin(9^{\circ}) \,\hat{\mathbf{j}}$.

Right, so then, you'd need to do this for the remaining three vectors. Once you've got all this written down, you can add the vectors together. What do you get?
 
After removing T as a common factor I got 12500= T(3.27 + 2.05)
 
Adhil said:
After removing T as a common factor I got 12500= T(3.27 + 2.05)
Which means T=2349.6-lb...is this correct?
... Nvm, it's wrong
 
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Adhil said:
Which means T=2349.6-lb...is this correct?
... Nvm, it's wrong

Right. You need to set $T[\langle \cos(9^{\circ}), \sin(9^{\circ})\rangle + \dots + \langle \cos(51^{\circ}), \sin(51^{\circ})\rangle ] = 12500$. You have to find the magnitude of the vector part.
 
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Ackbach said:
Right. You need to set $T[\langle \cos(9^{\circ}), \sin(9^{\circ})\rangle + \dots + \langle \cos(51^{\circ}), \sin(51^{\circ})\rangle ] = 12500$. You have to find the magnitude of the vector part.
Okay thanks[emoji106]I get it now
 

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