Solving 3xy^3 + (1+3x^2y^2)dy/dx=0

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The discussion revolves around the differential equation 3xy^3 + (1+3x^2y^2)dy/dx=0, with participants exploring the possibility of solving it using integrating factors and discussing its classification as linear or separable.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to rewrite the equation in the form y' + P(x)*y = q(x) and are questioning whether the equation is linear or separable. There is a discussion about the definition of linear differential equations and the implications of the equation's form.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights suggesting that integrating factors may not be necessary and that a substitution could lead to a separable form. There is an acknowledgment of differing interpretations regarding the equation's classification.

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Participants are grappling with the definitions and characteristics of linear and separable differential equations, and there is a reference to a book's answer set that implies a solution exists.

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Homework Statement


Solve 3xy^3 + (1+3x^2y^2)dy/dx=0 using integrating factors


Homework Equations


y' + p(x) = q(x)


The Attempt at a Solution


I'm having trouble putting the equation to y' + p(x) = q(x)
I distributed dy/dx so it becomes 3xy^3dy/dx + 1dy/dx+3x^2y^2dy/dx=0
But I didn't know where to go from there.
So I multiplied both sides by dx and 3xy^3dx + (1+3x^2y^2)dy=0
I don't know how to start this, please help!
 
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For starters, it's y' + P(x)*y = q(x)

For this to be true, the DE has to be linear.

Do you think it is linear, separable or neither?
 


the definition i have for a linear DE is that it is a DE that can be written in the form y' + P(x)*y = q(x). I am trying to rewrite the DE in that form, but it looks like I can't. If I can't, then according to the definition I have, the equation is not linear, and therefore not separable. But there is an answer from the book's answer set, so it looks like it should be linear...
 


You won't need to rely upon integrating factors in this case.

we know dy/dx = -3xy^3/(1 + 3x^2y^2)

Thus: dx/dy = -1/3xy^3 - x/y

Making a simple substitution of u = xy

dx/dy = (y*du/dy - u)/y^2 when the substitution is made

The equation should become separable.
 


ohhh, i see it now. thank you!
 


Why did you say "the equation is not linear, and therefore not separable"? Most separable equations are not linear. An easy example is dy/dx= x/y.
 

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