Solving a Kinetic Energy Conceptual Question: 0.5m * v^2?

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The discussion revolves around a conceptual question regarding kinetic energy, specifically focusing on a ball thrown into the air with an initial kinetic energy of 100J and its kinetic energy upon returning to the original level after encountering air resistance.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between kinetic energy and gravitational potential energy, questioning the relevance of the kinetic energy formula without known mass or velocity. There is discussion about the effects of air resistance on kinetic energy and whether it is appropriate to consider kinetic energy at different points in the ball's trajectory.

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Participants are actively questioning the assumptions in the problem, particularly regarding the effects of air resistance on the ball's kinetic energy. Some guidance has been offered regarding the conceptual nature of the problem, emphasizing the relationship between kinetic and potential energy without requiring specific values.

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The problem does not provide information about the mass, velocity, or specific effects of air resistance, which participants note as constraints in their understanding and approach to the question.

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A ball is thrown into the air with 100J of kinetic energy. When it returns to its original level after encountering air resistances what is it kinetic energy?

I have KE = 0.5m * v^2
I am not sure how to approach this problem as I don't have the mass or the velocity or the height of the ball.

am I using the wrong formula?
once it starts falling down isn't it really gravitation potential energy? is there really any kinetic energy there once its heading downwards? doesn't kinetic energy depend on the frame of reference?

I am not sure what the teacher wants here in this answer. I think I am not really understanding the question. help?
 
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netrunnr said:
A ball is thrown into the air with 100J of kinetic energy. When it returns to its original level after encountering air resistances what is it kinetic energy?

Hi netrunnr! Welcome to PF! :smile:

Does the question say how much the air resistance is? :confused:
 


nope :( doesn't say anything about air resistance.

tiny-tim said:
Hi netrunnr! Welcome to PF! :smile:

Does the question say how much the air resistance is? :confused:
 
netrunnr said:
nope :( doesn't say anything about air resistance.

But you said it said "after encountering air resistances" …

did you mean "without encountering air resistances"? :confused:
 
netrunnr said:
A ball is thrown into the air with 100J of kinetic energy. When it returns to its original level after encountering air resistances what is it kinetic energy?

I have KE = 0.5m * v^2
The problem doesn't ask for either m or v so this is irrelevant.

I am not sure how to approach this problem as I don't have the mass or the velocity or the height of the ball.

am I using the wrong formula?
once it starts falling down isn't it really gravitation potential energy? is there really any kinetic energy there once its heading downwards? doesn't kinetic energy depend on the frame of reference?

I am not sure what the teacher wants here in this answer. I think I am not really understanding the question. help?
You titled this "conceptual problem" so I expect that you are not asked for specific values but just a general statement. The total energy is "Kinetic energy plus Potential Energy" and potential energy is always relative to some initial value. Initially, we know that the kinetic energy is 100J and we can take the potential energy at that height to be 0. When the ball returns to its initial height, its potential energy is again 0. What has happened to its kinetic energy? Is it the same, or is more, or is it less than before? What would be your answer if there were no air resistance?
 
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okay so the kinetic energy decreases going up and increases going down. at the point of origin it recaptures all the kinetic energy it lost on the way up...
so then after encountering air resistance its kinetic energy is less than what it was when it started? right? so <100J ?

yah its conceptual so I think that answer will be acceptable.
 

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