Solving a polynomial with complex coefficients

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The problem involves solving a polynomial equation with complex coefficients, specifically z^6+(2i-1)z^3-1-i=0. Participants are exploring methods to simplify and solve the resulting quadratic after substituting k=z^3.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the substitution of k=z^3 and the challenges in simplifying the quadratic equation. There are mentions of expressing complex numbers in polar form and using the quadratic formula, with some questioning the simplification of the square root of (-8i+1).

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The discussion is ongoing, with various participants providing insights and suggestions for approaching the problem. Some have offered methods for expressing complex numbers and checking results from the quadratic formula, indicating a collaborative exploration of the topic.

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There are references to the complexity of the problem and the need for clarity in the definitions used, particularly regarding the real and imaginary components of complex numbers. The age of the thread is noted, suggesting a long-standing discussion.

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Homework Statement


z^6+(2i-1)z^3-1-i=0

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


I know that I must put k=z^3 and solve the quadratic. But I'm not able to simplify the quadratic. I get the square root of (-8i+1)

What am I supposed to do ?
 
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astrololo said:

Homework Statement


z^6+(2i-1)z^3-1-i=0

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


I know that I must put k=z^3 and solve the quadratic. But I'm not able to simplify the quadratic. I get the square root of (-8i+1)

What am I supposed to do ?
The square root of (1-8i) is, wait for it, another complex number!

If you know how to express (1-8i) in polar form using Euler's formula, then finding the square root should be a snap.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complex_number
 
astrololo said:

Homework Statement


z^6+(2i-1)z^3-1-i=0

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


I know that I must put k=z^3 and solve the quadratic. But I'm not able to simplify the quadratic. I get the square root of (-8i+1)

What am I supposed to do ?
Check that result from quadratic formula again.

I get something much simpler under the square root.
 
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FWIW, given any complex number z, then assume √z = a+bi and so z = (a+bi)² which means that Real(z²) = a²-b² and Im(z²) = 2abi; two equations, two unknowns. simple to solve, i hope.
 
ogg, I think you meant to write:
Re##(z)=a^2-b^2## and Im##(z)=2ab##
 
Ian Taylor said:
ogg, I think you meant to write:
Re##(z)=a^2-b^2## and Im##(z)=2ab##
Right. The imaginary part doesn't include the imaginary unit, i , by the usual convention.

Hello, Ian Taylor. Welcome to PF !

If you notice, this thread is 1/2 year old.
 
SammyS said:
Right. The imaginary part doesn't include the imaginary unit, i , by the usual convention.

Hello, Ian Taylor. Welcome to PF !

If you notice, this thread is 1/2 year old.
Thanks SammyS. He had also written ##z^2## rather than ##z##. which contradicts his original definition.
 

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