Solving a Problem with 4 Simultaneous Equations and 6 Unknown Variables

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The discussion revolves around solving a system of four simultaneous equations with six unknown variables. The original poster expresses difficulty in using the elimination method and anticipates multiple solutions due to the nature of the system.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the elimination method and its effectiveness for the problem. There are mentions of linear programming concepts and basic solutions, as well as the potential for multiple interpretations of the variables' relationships.

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Some participants have offered insights into the elimination process and the nature of basic versus non-basic solutions. The original poster has shared their attempts and is seeking further clarification on the conclusions drawn from their results.

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The original poster has not yet provided the full problem statement due to technical constraints, which may limit the depth of the discussion. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity of the system, with participants noting the implications of having more unknowns than equations.

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I have a problem that involves 4 simulationious equations with 6 unknown variables.
Been trying to solve it using elimination but getting stuck in a loop.
Any advice on how to solve this? I know there will be multiple answers.
Is elimination the best method?

Can't upload the problem now cause I have writing this from a phone, so if you need the question I'll upload it as soon as I can.

Thank you for any help.
 
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Yes, elimination seems to be the right way to go.
So we'll try to help once you uploaded the problem and what you tried...
 
Thank you sorry for the useless post haha I'll get it up as soon as I get home
 
Such systems are met with millions of time per day when solving _linear programming_ problems. There, the concept of a *basic* solution arises; this is a solution in which four of the variables are solved for as functions of the other two, then setting those two to zero, assuming that the 4x4 submatrix of those 4 variables is nonsingular. If every choice of 4x4 matrix is allowed (i.e., all are nonsingular), the number of basic solutions is C(6,4) = 6*5/2 = 15. If some of the 4x4 matrices are singular, the corresponding basic solution is non-existent (by definition).

While there could be as many as 15 different basic solutions there are infinitely many non-basic solutions, simply by assigning arbitrary non-zero values to the right-hand-side variables in each basic system.

For more on basic solutions, see, eg.,
http://www2.isye.gatech.edu/~spyros/LP/LP.html .

RGV
 
sorry for the ridiculously late reply. Finally got home so here is the question and my attempt at a solution.
 

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Well the first thing I notice is that if you add twice the second equation to the first equation, you eliminate three unknowns at a stroke! [itex]x_3[/itex], [itex]x_4[/itex], and [itex]x_6[/itex] all cancel leaving [itex]4x_1+ 4x_2- 7x_5= -2[/itex]. Since you know you will want to solve for four of the unknowns in terms of the other two, I would choose the two to be [itex]x_1[/itex] and [itex]x_2[/itex] so that I already have [itex]x_5= (4/7)x_1+ (4/7)x_2+ 2/7[/itex].

Replace [itex]x_5[/itex] in each of the equations by that and continue.
 
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HallsofIvy said:
Well the first thing I notice is that if you add twice the second equation to the first equation, you eliminate three unknowns at a stroke! [itex]x_3[/itex], [itex]x_4[/itex], and [itex]x_6[/itex] all cancel leaving [itex]4x_1+ 4x_2- 7x_5= -2[/itex]. Since you know you will want to solve for four of the unknowns in terms of the other two, I would choose the two to be [itex]x_1[/itex] and [itex]x_2[/itex] so that I already have [itex]x_5= (4/7)x_1+ (4/7)x_2+ 2/7[/itex].

Replace [itex]x_5[/itex] in each of the equations by that and continue.

Of course. Thank you, will continue working and let you guys know how I go.
 
So I left this problem and I have come back to it.
I have ended up with
x1=-3-x2
x3=-1+x6
x4=3
x5=-2

I am stuck...is this the answer?
I know 2 will be defined, 2 will be infinite and 2 will be defined by the infinite variables.
I am just not sure how to get to that conclusion.
 

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