Solving a Statics Problem: Where Do I Start?

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The discussion revolves around a statics problem involving the determination of reaction forces at joints A and B in a frame structure. Participants are exploring methods to solve the problem, including the use of free body diagrams and equilibrium equations. The context includes technical reasoning and problem-solving strategies related to statics in engineering.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in solving the problem, noting that taking moments around joints A or B results in two unsolved equations.
  • Another participant seeks clarification on the setup, asking if the structure is on a fixed pivot at the center and inquiring about the forces acting at points C and E.
  • A later reply indicates that the only pivot is at point C and specifies that there are forces of 100 lbs at points D and E, with A and B being pin joints.
  • One participant suggests that more than equilibrium equations are needed when there are more unknowns than equations, proposing to analyze the reactions due to each applied force separately to identify the total reactions.
  • Another participant mentions the concept of '2 force' members, indicating that certain members may not experience shear and only have axial loads.

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Participants have not reached a consensus on the best approach to solve the problem, and multiple viewpoints regarding the methodology and analysis remain present.

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There are limitations in the provided information, including missing assumptions about the structure's configuration and the nature of the forces involved. The discussion also reflects a dependency on the definitions of terms such as "2 force" members and the conditions at the joints.

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i have been working on this problem now for 2 hours and haven't gotten anywhere,
taking the moment around joint a or b still leaves you with 2 unsolved equations. and suming the forces leaves with 2 also can anyone point me in the right direction, i just need to determine the reactions at a, and b i have drawn a Free body diagram. thanks

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the length from a to b is 8' and 6' from b-e I am sorry i didn't put that in my drawing
 
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tufftrav said:
the length from a to b is 8' and 6' from b-e I am sorry i didn't put that in my drawing

Hi tufftrav! Welcome to PF! :smile:

(This is the same question as in thread https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=224637, isn't it?)

Can you please clarify:

Is the whole thing on a fixed pivot at the centre, E?

What is the force at C (also called E)?

Are A and B resting on the ground (you've called them "joints"), or what? :smile:
 
yea i double posted, the only pivot is at c, the is a force at e 100#, and force at d 100#, points a, and b were pin joints.
 
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I've always found these frame problems difficult. You have to use more than the equilibrium equationss when you have more unknowns than the number of those equations. The equilibrium equations will give you the y values of the reactions at a and b, but not the x values, which must exist at both these supports for stability. I think I would look at the recations due to each applied force separately, then combine them in the end to get the total reactions. When you look at them separately this way, you can identify which of the 2 members is a so called '2 force' member for that load, that is, it is not subject to shear, and has axial load only (internal bending moments in a member at pins cannot transfer at those pins to other members).
 

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