Solving an Indefinite Integral: \frac{3}{x^2-4}dx

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The discussion revolves around calculating the indefinite integral $$\int \frac{3}{x^2-4}dx$$. Participants explore various methods for solving this integral, including substitution and partial fraction decomposition, while expressing varying levels of familiarity with these techniques.

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  • Mathematical reasoning
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about how to approach the integral and mentions a preference for substitution.
  • Another participant suggests using partial fraction decomposition, indicating that it would make the integration straightforward.
  • Some participants reiterate the suggestion of partial fractions and express a desire to understand how to perform the decomposition.
  • A participant explains the process of partial fraction decomposition in detail, including setting up equations to solve for constants A and B.
  • There is a discussion about the appropriateness of substitution, with one participant proposing $$u=x^2-4$$ and another questioning the feasibility of this substitution.
  • A later reply suggests using a trigonometric substitution $$x=2\sin(\theta)$$ as an alternative method.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the effectiveness of substitution for this integral, suggesting that it may not yield progress and could be time-consuming.
  • One participant indicates that they are struggling with the integral and are concerned about their homework deadline.
  • Another participant offers a link to external resources for learning about partial fractions.
  • Finally, a participant summarizes both methods (partial fractions and trigonometric substitution) and provides a detailed outline of the solutions for each approach.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that partial fraction decomposition is a viable method for solving the integral, but there is disagreement regarding the effectiveness of substitution methods. Some participants believe substitution may not be productive, while others advocate for its use.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying levels of familiarity with the techniques discussed, and some mention that they have not yet learned partial fractions in their coursework. There are indications of uncertainty regarding the best approach to take for the integral.

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I have to calculate the following indefinite integral. i know that i have to do it with substitution,but here's my problem,im not enough good to do it.
So integral is :

$$\int \frac{3}{x^2-4}dx$$
 
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I would consider using partial fraction decomposition, and then the integration is straightforward.
 
MarkFL said:
I would consider using partial fraction decomposition, and then the integration is straightforward.

it would be good if i would know how to do it...
 
wishmaster said:
it would be good if i would know how to do it...

While there is a shortcut (the Heaviside cover-up method), I recommend you use the following since you are new to it:

First, factor the denominator:

$$\frac{3}{x^2-4}=\frac{3}{(x+2)(x-2)}$$

Next, assume it may be decomposed as follows:

$$\frac{3}{x^2-4}=\frac{A}{x+2}+\frac{B}{x-2}$$

Then, multiply through by the denominator on the left to get:

$$3=A(x-2)+B(x+2)$$

Arrange as follows:

$$0x+3=(A+B)x+(2B-2A)$$

Finally, equate corresponding coefficients to get a 2X2 linear system in $A$ and $B$ which you can then solve.
 
MarkFL said:
While there is a shortcut (the Heaviside cover-up method), I recommend you use the following since you are new to it:

First, factor the denominator:

$$\frac{3}{x^2-4}=\frac{3}{(x+2)(x-2)}$$

Next, assume it may be decomposed as follows:

$$\frac{3}{x^2-4}=\frac{A}{x+2}+\frac{B}{x-2}$$

Then, multiply through by the denominator on the left to get:

$$3=A(x-2)+B(x+2)$$

Arrange as follows:

$$0x+3=(A+B)x+(2B-2A)$$

Finally, equate corresponding coefficients to get a 2X2 linear system in $A$ and $B$ which you can then solve.

What is $A$ and $B$ representing?
 
wishmaster said:
What is $A$ and $B$ representing?

They represent constants, such that:

$$\frac{3}{x^2-4}=\frac{A}{x+2}+\frac{B}{x-2}$$
 
MarkFL said:
They represent constants, such that:

$$\frac{3}{x^2-4}=\frac{A}{x+2}+\frac{B}{x-2}$$

Thanks for that,but as we have done it with substitution,i believe i have to do it so.
 
wishmaster said:
Thanks for that,but as we have done it with substitution,i believe i have to do it so.

Okay, what sort of substitution do you think is appropriate?
 
MarkFL said:
Okay, what sort of substitution do you think is appropriate?

lets say $$u=x^2-4$$
 
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wishmaster said:
lets say $$u=x^2-4$$

Using this substitution, can you get the correct differential?
 
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Re: Integral calculationdz

MarkFL said:
Using this substitution, can you get the correct differential?

$$du=2x dz$$ ?
 
  • #12
Re: Integral calculationdz

wishmaster said:
$$du=2x dz$$ ?

I assume you mean:

$$du=2x\,dx$$

Can you write the original integral as:

$$\int f(u)\,du$$ ?

If there was an $x$ as a factor in the numerator of the original integrand, you could, but we don't have that. We are going to need another type of substitution...
 
  • #13
Re: Integral calculationdz

MarkFL said:
I assume you mean:

$$du=2x\,dx$$

Can you write the original integral as:

$$\int f(u)\,du$$ ?

If there was an $x$ as a factor in the numerator of the original integrand, you could, but we don't have that. We are going to need another type of substitution...
Yes,i mean $dx$.
So what kind of substitution do you suggest?
 
  • #14
Re: Integral calculationdz

wishmaster said:
Yes,i mean $dx$.
So what kind of substitution do you suggest?

I suggest:

$$x=2\sin(\theta)$$
 
  • #15
MarkFL said:
While there is a shortcut (the Heaviside cover-up method), I recommend you use the following since you are new to it:

First, factor the denominator:

$$\frac{3}{x^2-4}=\frac{3}{(x+2)(x-2)}$$

Next, assume it may be decomposed as follows:

$$\frac{3}{x^2-4}=\frac{A}{x+2}+\frac{B}{x-2}$$

Then, multiply through by the denominator on the left to get:

$$3=A(x-2)+B(x+2)$$

Arrange as follows:

$$0x+3=(A+B)x+(2B-2A)$$

Finally, equate corresponding coefficients to get a 2X2 linear system in $A$ and $B$ which you can then solve.
Hello,
basically this problem subsitute Will NOT give you any progress(there MAY be a way with subsitution (but I Dont think so) AND it can take HUGE time to figoure it out, not worth).. As Mark have helped you it's almost done! You got Two equation (linear)
(1)$$A+B=0$$
(2)$$2B-2A=3$$
From the (1) we get that $$A=-B$$ put that in (2) and solve for B and Then solve for A cause you know $$A=-B$$
Regards,
$$|\pi\rangle$$
 
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Petrus said:
Hello,
basically this problem subsitute Will NOT give you any progress(there MAY be a way with subsitution (but I Dont think so) AND it can take HUGE time to figoure it out, not worth).. As Mark have helped you it's almost done! You got Two equation (linear)
(1)$$A+B=0$$
(2)$$2B-2A=3$$
From the (1) we get that $$A=-B$$ put that in (2) and solve for B and Then solve for A cause you know $$A=-B$$
Regards,
$$|\pi\rangle$$

Hello Petrus! :D

I do agree that partial fractions is much quicker here, but the OP may not have been introduced to this yet. I know when I took Calc II, we were not introduced to partial fractions until after the various substitution methods, although we had seen partial fraction decomposition in Pre-Calculus, we did not apply it to integration until after substitutions.

This integral is doable with the trigonometric substitution I suggested. :D
 
  • #17
Petrus said:
Hello,
basically this problem subsitute Will NOT give you any progress(there MAY be a way with subsitution (but I Dont think so) AND it can take HUGE time to figoure it out, not worth).. As Mark have helped you it's almost done! You got Two equation (linear)
(1)$$A+B=0$$
(2)$$2B-2A=3$$
From the (1) we get that $$A=-B$$ put that in (2) and solve for B and Then solve for A cause you know $$A=-B$$
Regards,
$$|\pi\rangle$$

im stuck with it...its for my homework,that i have to give it today,but I am not into integrals very good,so there will be not much points here...
I should take a deep look into books...
 
  • #18
MarkFL said:
Hello Petrus! :D

I do agree that partial fractions is much quicker here, but the OP may not have been introduced to this yet. I know when I took Calc II, we were not introduced to partial fractions until after the various substitution methods, although we had seen partial fraction decomposition in Pre-Calculus, we did not apply it to integration until after substitutions.

This integral is doable with the trigonometric substitution I suggested. :D
Hello,
Ohh ok i learned it a lot early! Well I actually never done trigonometric substitution on this type! Thanks I learned something NEW!:)

Regards,
$$|\pi\rangle$$
 
  • #19
wishmaster said:
im stuck with it...its for my homework,that i have to give it today,but I am not into integrals very good,so there will be not much points here...
I should take a deep look into books...
I suggest you do that subsitute as you have not learned the other, if you are interested here is a explain how it works (it's not hard) Pauls Online Notes : Calculus II - Partial Fractions

ps. My phone is about to die so i want be able to help soon..
Regards,
$$|\pi\rangle$$
 
  • #20
Petrus said:
I suggest you do that subsitute as you have not learned the other, if you are interested here is a explain how it works (it's not hard) Pauls Online Notes : Calculus II - Partial Fractions

ps. My phone is about to die so i want be able to help soon..
Regards,
$$|\pi\rangle$$
I will take a look! Thank you friend!
 
  • #21
wishmaster said:
I have to calculate the following indefinite integral. i know that i have to do it with substitution,but here's my problem,im not enough good to do it.
So integral is :

$$\int \frac{3}{x^2-4}dx$$

I will now write out a solution using both methods I suggested:

i) Partial fractions:

$$\frac{3}{4}\int \frac{1}{x-2}-\frac{1}{x+2}\,dx=\frac{3}{4}\ln\left|\frac{x-2}{x+2} \right|+C$$

ii) Trigonometric substitution:

$$x=2\sin(\theta)\,\therefore\,dx=2\cos(\theta)\, d\theta$$

$$-\frac{3}{4}\int\frac{2\cos(\theta)}{1-\sin^2(\theta)}\,d\theta=-\frac{3}{2}\int \sec(\theta)\,d\theta$$

$$\sec(\theta)\frac{\sec(\theta)+\tan(\theta)}{\sec(\theta)+\tan(\theta)}= \frac{1}{\sec(\theta)+\tan(\theta)} \frac{d}{d\theta}\left(\sec(\theta)+ \tan(\theta) \right)$$

And so we obtain:

$$-\frac{3}{2}\ln\left|\sec(\theta)+\tan(\theta) \right|+C$$

Back substituting for $\theta$, we obtain:

$$-\frac{3}{2}\ln\left|\frac{2}{\sqrt{4-x^2}}+\frac{x}{\sqrt{4-x^2}} \right|+C= -\frac{3}{2}\ln\left|\frac{2+x}{\sqrt{4-x^2}} \right|+C= -\frac{3}{2}\ln\left|\sqrt{\frac{x+2}{x-2}} \right|+C= \frac{3}{4}\ln\left|\frac{x-2}{x+2} \right|+C$$
 

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