Solving Charge in Conductors: Find Q1, Q2 & Combined Potential

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The problem involves two spherical conductors with different initial potentials and seeks to determine their charges after being connected. The subject area includes electrostatics, specifically the behavior of charges in conductors and the concept of electric potential.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss using conservation of charge and the relationship between charge and potential. There are questions about whether the spheres have the same radius, which affects the combined potential calculation.

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Some participants have provided insights into calculating the final charges on the spheres based on their potentials. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, particularly regarding the implications of the spheres' radii on the combined potential.

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There is uncertainty about the radii of the spheres, which may influence the calculations and assumptions made in the discussion. The problem setup includes specific voltages and requires consideration of charge conservation.

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Homework Statement


A sphere conductor of radius 18 cm has potential 27 Volt. Another sphere conductor has potential 18 Volt. Both of them are connected and the combined potential is 24 Volt. Find:
a. the charge of second sphere
b. the charge of each sphere now


Homework Equations


Q = CV
V = kQ / r

The Attempt at a Solution


a.
V1 = k.Q1 / r1
27 = 9 x 109 x Q1 / (18 x 10-2)
Q1 = 5.4 x 10-10 C

Then I don't know how to continue...
 
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Try using conservation of charge.

EDIT: Are those two sphere of same radius?
 
You can calculate also the final charge Q1' on the first sphere, as its potential is known.
As for the second sphere, kQ2/R2=18 and kQ'2/R2=24. From here, you can find the ratio Q2'/Q2. As AGNuke said, the sum of the charge on the spheres is conserved: Q1+Q2=Q1'+Q2'.

ehild
 
AGNuke said:
Try using conservation of charge.

EDIT: Are those two sphere of same radius?

I don't know but maybe they are not

ehild said:
You can calculate also the final charge Q1' on the first sphere, as its potential is known.
As for the second sphere, kQ2/R2=18 and kQ'2/R2=24. From here, you can find the ratio Q2'/Q2. As AGNuke said, the sum of the charge on the spheres is conserved: Q1+Q2=Q1'+Q2'.

ehild

V' = k Q1' / r1
24 = 9 x 109 x Q1' / (18 x 10-2)
Q1' = 4.8 x 10-10 C

kQ2/R2=18 ; kQ'2/R2=24
So Q2'/Q2 = 24/18 = 4/3

Q1+Q2=Q1'+Q2'
5.4 x 10-10 + Q2 = 4.8 x 10-10 + 4/3 Q2
Q2 = 1.8 x 10-10 C

Q2' = 2.4 x 10-10 C


If the spheres have same radius, then the combined potential should be: (27 + 18)/2 = 45/2 V. Am I correct in this case?

Thanks
 
songoku said:
I don't know but maybe they are not

Q2 = 1.8 x 10-10 C

Q2' = 2.4 x 10-10 C


If the spheres have same radius, then the combined potential should be: (27 + 18)/2 = 45/2 V. Am I correct in this case?

Thanks

Your solution is excellent and you are right, if the radii were the same the final voltage would be 22.5 V.

ehild
 
OK. Thanks a lot :smile:
 

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