Solving Circular Motion Problems: Work and Tension in Springs

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The problem involves a ball attached to a spring, moving in a circular path on a frictionless plane. The discussion focuses on calculating the tension in the spring, the spring constant, the new radius of the ball's path at a different velocity, and the work done on the mass during this motion.

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  • Participants discuss the calculations for tension and spring constant, with some expressing confidence in the results for parts (a), (b), and (c). There is uncertainty regarding the interpretation of work done in part (d), particularly in relation to changing radius and the implications of work done during the transition.

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Some participants have validated the calculations for the first three parts, while the discussion around part (d) is ongoing, with questions about how to quantify work as the radius changes. There is no explicit consensus yet on the interpretation of work in this context.

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Participants are exploring the implications of circular motion and the relationship between force, work, and potential energy in the context of a spring system. The original poster's assumptions about the nature of work done during circular motion are being questioned.

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Homework Statement


A ball of mass 1 kg is attached to a spring. The spring is attached to a fixed pivot, P. The spring cannot bend. The ball moves in a circle of radius R in a horizontal plane with a velocity v. The spring is mass-less and the plane is frictionless.

(a) If R = 1.0 m and v = 1.0 m/s, what is the tension in the spring at the point where it attaches to m?

(b) If the relaxed length of the spring is 0.90 m, what is the spring constant k?

(c) If the ball and spring now rotate with v = 2.0 m/s, what is the new radius of the ball's path.

(d) How much work is done on the mass.


Homework Equations



F = mv2/ R
F = kx
W = Fxcos(theta)

The Attempt at a Solution



a)
F= mv2/ R = 1(1)2 / 1 = 1 N

b)
According to Newton's third law, the force ON the string is equal to the force BY the string, so:
F= kx
1 = k(1-0.9)
10 = k

c)
If R' is the new radius, then:
F = mv2/ R'
and
F = kx = k(R' - 0.9)
SO
mv2/ R' = k(R' - 0.9)
1(2)2/ R' = 10(R' - 0.9)
4/R' = 10(R' - 0.9)
4 = 10R'2 - 9R'
0 = 10R'2 - 9R' - 4

Quadratic formula gives me R'= 1.226 m

d)

Work for any circular motion = 0
because x and F are perpendicular to each other, so cos 90 = 0.

Is this correct?
 
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(a), (b), and (c) look good.

For (d): I am not sure how to interpret this question. While it's true that no work is done while the mass is moving in a circle of fixed radius, there would be work done on it while the radius changes from 1.0 m to 1.23 m.
 
Redbelly98 said:
(a), (b), and (c) look good.

For (d): I am not sure how to interpret this question. While it's true that no work is done while the mass is moving in a circle of fixed radius, there would be work done on it while the radius changes from 1.0 m to 1.23 m.

That's true. =\
How would I find the work while the radius changes?
 
The work done on the mass as the spring stretches would be stored as potential energy is the spring. The elastic energy is the spring is proportional to the extention squared.
 
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omg, I go to mss too! xD
 

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