Solving Complex Quadratic Equations with Imaginary Coefficients

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The discussion revolves around solving complex quadratic equations, specifically those with imaginary coefficients. The original poster presents a specific equation involving complex numbers and expresses difficulty in finding sensible solutions.

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  • Participants discuss the need to separate real and imaginary parts to form simultaneous equations. The original poster attempts to manipulate the equation using substitutions but struggles to derive meaningful results. Others suggest using the quadratic formula and taking square roots of complex numbers.

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There is a mix of attempts to clarify the problem and explore different methods. Some participants provide guidance on using the quadratic formula, while others express confusion about the process. The conversation reflects a collaborative effort to understand the complexities involved without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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Participants note the challenge of dealing with complex coefficients and the implications for the discriminant in the quadratic formula. There is an emphasis on ensuring that both real and imaginary parts are addressed simultaneously.

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ok having major problems. i can easily solve z^2 + pz +a+bi=0 solutions but that extra qiz is really annoying me.

z^2 + 3z+4iz-1+5i=0

(z+2i)^2+3z-5+5i=0
z+2i = w, z=w-2i

w=-3(w-2i)+5-5i

then I am not getting anything sensible for solving x and yi. what am i doing wrong?
 
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The real and imaginary parts need to be zero at the same time ... simultaneous equations.
If z is complex, then put z = a+ib.
 
Simon Bridge said:
The real and imaginary parts need to be zero at the same time ... simultaneous equations.
If z is complex, then put z = a+ib.

that doesn't give any answers.
 
Wi_N said:
ok having major problems. i can easily solve z^2 + pz +a+bi=0 solutions but that extra qiz is really annoying me.

z^2 + 3z+4iz-1+5i=0

(z+2i)^2+3z-5+5i=0
z+2i = w, z=w-2i

w=-3(w-2i)+5-5i

then I am not getting anything sensible for solving x and yi. what am i doing wrong?

Just use the quadratic formula on the equation ##z^2 + (3+4i) z +(5i-1) = 0.## This has the form ##z^2 + bz + c=0##, with ##b = 3+4i## and ##c = 5i-1##. The only real complication is that the discriminant ##b^2 - 4 a c## can be complex---it equals ##-3 + 4i## in your case---so you need to be able to take square roots of complex numbers.
 
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nevermind. got it. thanks a lot.
 
Great! What did you end up doing?
 
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Simon Bridge said:
Great! What did you end up doing?

basically took the root out of ((p/2)^2-q)^(1/2)

(p/2)^2-q = x+iy

(a+bi)(a+bi)=(x+iy)

a^2-b^2=x (if x is positive a^2>b^2 if not b^2>a^2)
2abi=iy = > 2b=y (if y is positive then a and b both must either be negative or positive, if y is negative then either x or y has to be negative or vice versa and the other positive)

this way you can figure out your roots which will always be 2 roots since its a z^2 equation.

then just add. z=(p/2)+-(x+iy)
 
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Wi_N said:
basically took the root out of ((p/2)^2-q)^(1/2)

(p/2)^2-q = x+iy

(a+bi)(a+bi)=(x+iy)

a^2-b^2=x (if x is positive a^2>b^2 if not b^2>a^2)
2abi=iy = > 2b=y (if y is positive then a and b both must either be negative or positive, if y is negative then either x or y has to be negative or vice versa and the other positive)

this way you can figure out your roots which will always be 2 roots since its a z^2 equation.

then just add. z=(p/2)+-(x+iy)

Please write down the final solutions (to your numerical example) explicitly. We cannot tell if you have made an error if you will not show us what you got.
 
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Ray Vickson said:
Please write down the final solutions (to your numerical example) explicitly. We cannot tell if you have made an error if you will not show us what you got.
no worries got the right answer. thanks.
 

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