Solving Differential Equations: Separable and Standard Forms

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The discussion revolves around solving differential equations, specifically focusing on separable and standard forms. The original poster presents two differential equations and explores integration techniques to solve them.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to solve a separable differential equation and questions the correctness of their integration steps. Some participants raise concerns about the application of trigonometric identities, while others suggest checking the integration process for potential errors.

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Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's attempts, providing feedback on specific steps and suggesting areas for reconsideration. There is a productive exchange regarding the integration process and the implications of using trigonometric identities.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the integration steps and the handling of constants. The original poster also mentions a transition from one variable to another, which may affect the integration results.

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I have the following to problem:-

1)dy/dt = (1+y^2)/(1+4t^2) y(0)=1

This equation is seperable I arrive at

Integral 1/(1+y^2) dy = Integral 1/(1+4t^2) dt

If I let 2t=x then the RHS is in the same form as my standard integrals.

Which is Integral 1/(x^2 + a^2) = 1/a arctan(x/a)

So far so good methinks...

After a bit of 'jiggery pokery' I get

arctan(y) = arctan(2t) + C

Take tan of both sides -> y = 2t + tan(C)
Putting in initial values

1 = 2*0 + tan(C)

Therefore C = pi/4

Finally y = 2t + pi/4 -> Am I right!

Now my second equation is thus:

(x^2 + 1)dy/dx -2xy = 2x(x^2 +1)

Putting it into standard from

dy/dx - (2xy)/(x^2 + 1) = 2x

This gives me an integrating factor 1/(x^2 +1)

Now what!?
 
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james.farrow said:
arctan(y) = arctan(2t) + C

Take tan of both sides -> y = 2t + tan(C)

Methinks this step is an error. Note the following identity.

[tex]{\rm \tan}(a+b)={{{\rm tan}a+{\rm tan}b}\over{1-{\rm tan}a\; {\rm tan}b}}[/tex]
 
You can check your answer by plugging y into the formula.
However, you might want to check this step:
arctan(y) = arctan(2t) + C

Take tan of both sides -> y = 2t + tan(C)

because tan(a + b) [itex]\neq[/itex] tan(a) + tan(b) in general.
 
Cheers everyone! If I use the identity I still get C = pi/4.

What is the check??

James
 
You dropped a factor of 1/2 when integrating the RHS.
 
Can you show me how I dropped the factor of 1/2?

I have 1/(4t^2 + 1)

If x=2t then x^2=4t^2

So using 1/(x^2 + a^2) where a=1=a^2

I'm struggling with it really!

Cheers James
 
Ok everyone I've had a rethink on my integration...

Here goes.

Integral of 1/(1 + 4t^2) becomes

1/4 Integral of 1/(1/4 + t^2)

a^2= 1/4 so a=1/2

Standard integral 1/a arctan(x/a)

So finally after integrating I arrive at

1/2 arctan(2t)

What do you think?

James
 
james.farrow said:
Ok everyone I've had a rethink on my integration...

Here goes.

Integral of 1/(1 + 4t^2) becomes

1/4 Integral of 1/(1/4 + t^2)

a^2= 1/4 so a=1/2

Standard integral 1/a arctan(x/a)

So finally after integrating I arrive at

1/2 arctan(2t)

What do you think?
That's correct.

In your previous attempt, you have to replace dt by dx. Because x=2t, you had dx=2 dt, or dt=dx/2. That's where your missing factor of 1/2 went.
 
Thanks for your help everyone! It's appreciated!

No doubt you'll be hearing from me shortly - integrating factor is next...
 

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