Solving Dynamics Problem: Find Velocity, Distance & Rest Point

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The problem involves dynamics, specifically the motion of a particle with a given acceleration relation a = -0.05[v]². The particle starts from rest at s=0m with an initial velocity of 5 m/s. The questions focus on determining the velocity after traveling 10 m, the distance traveled before the velocity drops to 2 m/s, and the distance before coming to rest.

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  • Participants discuss the need to integrate the acceleration to find velocity and question how to handle the integration with respect to time and position. There are attempts to separate variables and integrate, with some participants expressing confusion over the number of unknowns involved.

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There is ongoing exploration of integration techniques, with some participants suggesting different approaches to express acceleration in terms of velocity and position. Guidance has been offered to separate variables and integrate, but no consensus has been reached on the final approach or solution.

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Participants note the constraints of the problem, including the initial conditions and the specific distances to be calculated. There is an acknowledgment of potential mistakes due to prolonged engagement with the problem.

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Hey I have been looking at the problem for a long time and for some reason I can't think of how to solve for it... I know I have to do some Calc to figure it out.

Ok so here it is

The acceleration of a particle is defined by the relation a = -0.05[tex][v]^{2}[/tex], where
a is expressed in m/[tex]<s>^{2}</s>[/tex] and v in m/s. The particle starts at s=0m with a velocity of 5 m/s. Determine (a) the velocity v of the particle after it travels 10 m, (b) the distance s the particle will travel before its velocity drops to 2 m/s, (c) the distance s the particle will
travel before it comes to rest.

so far I think what I have to do is take the derivative of a which ends up being -.1v but after that I am stuck because now I have velocity as a function of velocity... any ideas? I realize I am most likely doing this totally wrong.
 
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Since [itex]a = dv/dt[/itex], you'll need to integrate to find v. Start there.
 
so I'll get
[tex]\int[/tex]dv=[tex]\int[/tex]a dt
(v2-v1) = -0.05[tex]v^{2}[/tex]*t - 0 (since [tex]t_{0}[/tex]=0)

but I now have 2 unknowns though.
v and t

since I know the change in position shouldn't I do an integration over that? I'm just unsure how exactly it should be done
 
ncr7 said:
so I'll get
[tex]\int[/tex]dv=[tex]\int[/tex]a dt
(v2-v1) = -0.05[tex]v^{2}[/tex]*t - 0 (since [tex]t_{0}[/tex]=0)


Before you can integrate properly, you must separate the variables:
[tex]\frac{dv}{dt} = -0.05v^2[/tex]

[tex]\frac{dv}{v^2} = -0.05 dt[/tex]

Now try integrating. (And don't forget the integration constants.)
 
ok, I'm starting to have some weird mistakes because I have been on this problem to long lol... but I don't have two integration constants for t or v. I have the change in s from 0m to 10m. This would only really be able to give me where it's time when it comes to a complete stop which is part of the problem. But right now I need to find velocity at 10m.
 
One step at a time. :wink: First complete the integration to find v as a function of t. Then, using v = dx/dt, integrate once more.
 
In this case, it would save a lot of trouble if he writes a = v(dv/dx). All the answers want some x at some v.
 
Even quicker! :smile: (I was trying to keep it as straightforward and simple as possible.)
 
ok I think I got it.

so taking

[tex]\int_0 ^{10m} -0.05v^2 dx = \int_0^v v dv[/tex]

I get[tex]-0.05x|_0 ^{10} = ln|v||_{5m/s} ^v[/tex]

[tex]e^{1.11} = v[/tex]

getting 3.03 m/s

I think that's right...
 
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Looks good, but be careful how your write up your work.
[tex]v\frac{dv}{dx} = -0.05v^2[/tex]

[tex]\frac{dv}{v} = -0.05dx[/tex]

[tex]ln(v) = -0.05x + C[/tex]
 
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ok yeah I'm going to write it more throughly when I put it on paper. There wouldn't be the C because I have known points I'm integrating between. thanks for checking my work.
 

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