Solving Electricity Prob w/ R1=7\Omega, R2=5\Omega, R3=4\Omega

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The discussion revolves around a circuit problem involving resistors R1, R2, R3, and R4, with given values for R1 (7Ω), R2 (5Ω), and R3 (4Ω). The original poster attempts to determine the value of R4 based on a current of 0.6A through R1 and a supplied voltage of 9V, as well as to find the current through R3 and the voltage across R4.

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  • Participants discuss the calculations for R4 and the implications of the current through R1 affecting the current through R3. There are attempts to clarify the voltage drop across the parallel combination of R3 and R4 and how to calculate the current through R3 based on this voltage.

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Some participants have provided feedback on the calculations, indicating that while the first part is correct, the second part requires reevaluation. There is an ongoing exploration of different methods to approach the problem, with suggestions for clearer labeling and reasoning in calculations.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of parallel and series circuits, questioning the assumptions made about current distribution and voltage drops. There is an emphasis on clarity in problem-solving approaches, particularly for educational purposes.

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The values for the resistors are: R1=7[tex]\Omega[/tex], R2=5[tex]\Omega[/tex], R3=4[tex]\Omega[/tex] (see diagram for placement of the resistors)
1) Suppose there is a current of 0.6A going through R1 and that the voltage supplied by the battery is 9V, determine the value of R4
2) Using the information above, determine the current through R3 and the voltage across R4

1) [tex]\frac{1}{R_{eq(3+4)}}[/tex] = [tex]\frac{1}{4}[/tex] + [tex]\frac{1}{R4}[/tex]

= [tex]\frac{R4}{4R4}[/tex] + [tex]\frac{4}{4R4}[/tex]

= [tex]\frac{R4 + 4}{4R4}[/tex]
therefore R[tex]_{eq(3+4)}[/tex] = [tex]\frac{4R4}{R4 + 4}[/tex]

R[tex]_{tot}[/tex] = R1 + R2 + R[tex]_{eq(3+4)}[/tex]
15 = 7 + 5 + [tex]\frac{4R4}{R4 + 4}[/tex]
[tex]\frac{4R4}{R4 + 4}[/tex] = 3
4R4 = 3(R4 + 4)
= 3R4 + 12
therefore R4=12[tex]\Omega[/tex]

2) I = [tex]\frac{\epsilon}{R}[/tex] = 9/15 = 0.6A
V = IR = 0.6 x 12 = 7.2V

Is this correct?
 

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1 is fine.

2. is a bit of a problem.

note that the statement says that the current through R1 is 0.6 A. This means that 0.6 amps flows through R2 and also through the parallel combination. So less than 0.6 amps should flow through R3.

Calculate the potential drop over the parallel combination. This same voltage appears over R3 and R4. Use this voltage and the known resistance of R3 to calc the current through it.
 
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P = VI = [tex]\frac{V^{2}}{R}[/tex] = I[tex]^{2}[/tex]
I[tex]_{1+2}[/tex] = 0.6A
R = 7+5 = 12[tex]\Omega[/tex]
P = 0.6[tex]^{2}[/tex] x 12 = 4.32W

V[tex]^{2}[/tex] = PR = 4.32 x 12 = 51.84V
V = 7.2V

P = I[tex]^{2}[/tex] x 16 = 4.32
I[tex]^{2}[/tex] = [tex]\frac{4.32}{16}[/tex] = 0.2A
I = 0.5A

I = [tex]\frac{\epsilon}{R}[/tex]

[tex]\epsilon[/tex] = IR = 0.5 x 12 = 6V
 
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It seems you like to do things the hard (and also hard to comprehend) way ... You should somehow word what you are doing when you are solving problems and label calculated quantities, like [tex]I_3[/tex], in order for your teacher to evaluate your problems in the future.

A simpler/my approach would be:

The total resistance of the parallel combination is three ohm as you have discovered yourself. This means that the voltage drop over the combination (and also the individual resistors of the parallel connection - R3 and R4) will be

[tex]V_P = 0.6 \times 3\ volts[/tex]

This will be the potential difference over R4 (and R3), so it is quite simple to calc the current through R3 now with the resistance value of R3 given an the potential drop over it.
 
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