Solving Ellastic Collisions: Masses mA & mB, Velocity & Height

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The discussion revolves around an elastic collision problem involving two balls of different masses, where one ball is released from a height and collides with the other. Participants are exploring the velocities before and after the collision, as well as the maximum heights each ball reaches post-collision.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of the initial velocity of the lighter ball using gravitational potential energy and kinetic energy principles. There are attempts to derive the maximum heights after the collision, with some questioning the methods used and the assumptions made regarding angles and height calculations.

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Some participants have provided hints and guidance regarding the calculations, particularly concerning the use of trigonometric functions to determine height. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct approach to find the heights after the collision, with no explicit consensus reached on the method to be used.

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Participants note the importance of the angle after the collision, which remains uncertain. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the height calculations, indicating a need for clarification on the principles involved.

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Two balls, of masses mA = 40 g and mB = 72 g are suspended as shown in Figure 7-44. The lighter ball is pulled away to a 60° angle with the vertical and released.




(a) What is the velocity of the lighter ball before impact? (Take the right to be positive.)

(b) What is the velocity of each ball after the elastic collision?
ball A
ball B
(c) What will be the maximum height of each ball (above the collision point) after the elastic collision?
ball A
ball B


Ok so i found part A by doing Square root of 2*9.8*.15 and got 1.71 which is correct.
Part B i got -.488 for the velocity of A and it is correct
Part B i got 1.22 for the velocity of B and it is correct

Where i am lost is how to find the heights of each.

I tried doing (.488^2)/ 2 *9.8*sin 60
and i get .01402 m
It is incorrect any help?
 
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Hint: How did u get "Ok so i found part A by doing Square root of 2*9.8*.15 and got 1.71 which is correct." ??
 
sin 60 * 30 cm converted to meeters = the .15 and i think you can figure the rest

But i don't see where your going either
 
Paulbird20 said:
sin 60 * 30 cm converted to meeters = the .15 and i think you can figure the rest

But i don't see where your going either

I was basically hinting at this "rest" only! :smile: Use the same approach.

Well, I guess, string length is given to be, l = 30cm. (I am not able to see any figure!)
In that case, height at an angle "theta", with the vertical, is l{1 - Cos(theta)}. Note that, Cos 60 = 0.5, Sin 60 = 0.866. :wink:
 
that won't give me the right answer because i don't know the angle after colliision.

.3 (1-cos60)=.15 and that is not the height of either after collision
 
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Paulbird20 said:
sin 60 * 30 cm converted to meeters = the .15 and i think you can figure the rest

But i don't see where your going either

You are misinterpreting me. When I said, "Note that, Cos 60 = 0.5, Sin 60 = 0.866.", I was saying how could you possibly get "sin 60 * 30 cm converted to meeters = the .15". Instead, the correct formula should have been l{1 - Cos(theta)}.

Of course, you don't know the angle.. that can be calculated once height is known. To calculate height, use the same principle, which you used to obtain the result of part (A).. although in the reverse manner.
 
ah you i was badly misunderstanding it. I got it now TY
 

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