Solving f(x) = x^p cos(1/x): Domain, f & f' Continuity

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The discussion revolves around the function f(x) = x^p cos(1/x) for x > 0 and f(0) = 0, focusing on the continuity of f and its derivative f' across different values of the real number p. Participants are exploring the conditions under which both f and f' remain continuous on the domain [0, ∞).

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  • Participants are questioning what specific values of p ensure the continuity of f and f'. There is a discussion about the continuity of related functions and their derivatives, with references to the power rule and the behavior of trigonometric functions as x approaches 0.

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The conversation is ongoing, with some participants providing insights into the continuity of related functions and derivatives. There is no explicit consensus yet, but various interpretations and approaches are being explored regarding the continuity conditions for different values of p.

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Some participants note the lack of clarity in the original problem statement and express confusion about the continuity of the function at x = 0, as well as the implications of the power rule in this context.

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My textbook gives this example and the answers without any explanation of how to get them and I'm not following. Any help would be appreciated!

f(x) = x^p cos(1/x) if x>0, 0 if x = 0
domain [0,inf), p real number

f, f' are continuous in regards to changing values of p when...Thanks!
 
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savanna91 said:
My textbook gives this example and the answers without any explanation of how to get them and I'm not following. Any help would be appreciated!

f(x) = x^p cos(1/x) if x>0, 0 if x = 0
domain [0,inf), p real number

f, f' are continuous in regards to changing values of p when...


Thanks!

I don't see any questions asked here?
 
What values of p make f and f' continuous?
 
think about the "power rule".
You do know that f( x ) = cos(1/x) when x >0 and 0 when x = 0 is not continuous at 0 right?
well, suppose I had xcos(1/x), can you see that this is continuous at 0?
Okay, let's say you can see that it is; then (xcos(1/x) ) ' = cos(1/x) + [stuff] = cos(1/x) + sin(1/x)/x. This is not continuous at 0 right? especially not with the cos(1/x) term in there!

But, let's see what happens with x^2 cos(1/x):

( x^2cos(1/x) ) ' = 2xcos(1/x) + sin(1/x). This is almost good, since 2xcos(1/x) is continuous at 0, but sin(1/x) isn't; if only we had an xsin(1/x) there instead ( which is continuous at 0 ).
But you can notice a pattern: (xcos(1/x)) ' had a sin(1/x)/x term, (x^2cos(1/x)) ' had a sin(1/x) term, hopefully (x^3 cos(1/x) ) ' will have a xsin(1/x) term in it, and indeed:

(x^3 cos(1/x) ) ' = 3x^2cos(1/x) + xsin(1/x) and indeed, this is continuous at 0 ( you should know that xcos(1/x) is continuous at 0, x^2cos(1/x) is as well, cos(1/x) is bounded between -1 and 1 while x or x^2 goes to 0, so the whole thing goes to 0 ).
Working out the derivatives on your own will show you that the whole thing relies on the "power rule" ( and perhaps the periodic and bounded properties of cos and sin )
 

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