MHB Solving for $abcd$ Given Real Numbers

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The discussion focuses on finding the product \( abcd \) given the equations for real numbers \( a, b, c, d \). The equations for \( a \) and \( b \) lead to a quartic equation \( x^4 - 8x^2 + x + 11 = 0 \), while \( c \) and \( d \) lead to a related equation \( x^4 - 8x^2 - x + 11 = 0 \). It is established that if \( x \) is a root of the second equation, then \( -x \) is a root of the first. Consequently, the roots of the first equation include \( a, b, -c, -d \), leading to the conclusion that the product \( abcd \) equals 11. Thus, the final result is \( abcd = 11 \).
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Let $a, b, c, d$ be real numbers such that $$a=\sqrt{4-\sqrt{5-a}}$$, $$b=\sqrt{4+\sqrt{5-b}}$$, $$c=\sqrt{4-\sqrt{5+c}}$$ and $$d=\sqrt{4+\sqrt{5+d}}$$. Calculate $abcd$.
 
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anemone said:
Let $a, b, c, d$ be real numbers such that $$a=\sqrt{4-\sqrt{5-a}}$$, $$b=\sqrt{4+\sqrt{5-b}}$$, $$c=\sqrt{4-\sqrt{5+c}}$$ and $$d=\sqrt{4+\sqrt{5+d}}$$. Calculate $abcd$.
[sp]$a$ and $b$ satisfy the equation $(x^2-4)^2 = 5-x$, or $x^4 - 8x^2 + x + 11 = 0\quad(*).$

$c$ and $d$ satisfy the equation $(x^2-4)^2 = 5+x$, or $x^4 - 8x^2 - x + 11 = 0\quad(**).$

But if $x$ satisfies (**) then $-x$ satisfies (*). So the roots of (*) are $a,b,-c,-d.$ Thus $abcd$ is the product of the roots of (*), namely 11.[/sp]
 
Opalg said:
[sp]$a$ and $b$ satisfy the equation $(x^2-4)^2 = 5-x$, or $x^4 - 8x^2 + x + 11 = 0\quad(*).$

$c$ and $d$ satisfy the equation $(x^2-4)^2 = 5+x$, or $x^4 - 8x^2 - x + 11 = 0\quad(**).$

But if $x$ satisfies (**) then $-x$ satisfies (*). So the roots of (*) are $a,b,-c,-d.$ Thus $abcd$ is the product of the roots of (*), namely 11.[/sp]

Well done, Opalg! And thanks for participating too! Just so you know, I approached it the same way you did.(Sun)
 
Here is a little puzzle from the book 100 Geometric Games by Pierre Berloquin. The side of a small square is one meter long and the side of a larger square one and a half meters long. One vertex of the large square is at the center of the small square. The side of the large square cuts two sides of the small square into one- third parts and two-thirds parts. What is the area where the squares overlap?

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