MHB Solving for $abcd$ Given Real Numbers

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The discussion focuses on finding the product \( abcd \) given the equations for real numbers \( a, b, c, d \). The equations for \( a \) and \( b \) lead to a quartic equation \( x^4 - 8x^2 + x + 11 = 0 \), while \( c \) and \( d \) lead to a related equation \( x^4 - 8x^2 - x + 11 = 0 \). It is established that if \( x \) is a root of the second equation, then \( -x \) is a root of the first. Consequently, the roots of the first equation include \( a, b, -c, -d \), leading to the conclusion that the product \( abcd \) equals 11. Thus, the final result is \( abcd = 11 \).
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Let $a, b, c, d$ be real numbers such that $$a=\sqrt{4-\sqrt{5-a}}$$, $$b=\sqrt{4+\sqrt{5-b}}$$, $$c=\sqrt{4-\sqrt{5+c}}$$ and $$d=\sqrt{4+\sqrt{5+d}}$$. Calculate $abcd$.
 
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anemone said:
Let $a, b, c, d$ be real numbers such that $$a=\sqrt{4-\sqrt{5-a}}$$, $$b=\sqrt{4+\sqrt{5-b}}$$, $$c=\sqrt{4-\sqrt{5+c}}$$ and $$d=\sqrt{4+\sqrt{5+d}}$$. Calculate $abcd$.
[sp]$a$ and $b$ satisfy the equation $(x^2-4)^2 = 5-x$, or $x^4 - 8x^2 + x + 11 = 0\quad(*).$

$c$ and $d$ satisfy the equation $(x^2-4)^2 = 5+x$, or $x^4 - 8x^2 - x + 11 = 0\quad(**).$

But if $x$ satisfies (**) then $-x$ satisfies (*). So the roots of (*) are $a,b,-c,-d.$ Thus $abcd$ is the product of the roots of (*), namely 11.[/sp]
 
Opalg said:
[sp]$a$ and $b$ satisfy the equation $(x^2-4)^2 = 5-x$, or $x^4 - 8x^2 + x + 11 = 0\quad(*).$

$c$ and $d$ satisfy the equation $(x^2-4)^2 = 5+x$, or $x^4 - 8x^2 - x + 11 = 0\quad(**).$

But if $x$ satisfies (**) then $-x$ satisfies (*). So the roots of (*) are $a,b,-c,-d.$ Thus $abcd$ is the product of the roots of (*), namely 11.[/sp]

Well done, Opalg! And thanks for participating too! Just so you know, I approached it the same way you did.(Sun)
 
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